Oxidized paint
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Actually the OP asked:
FF is not a replacement for a good paint job. Nobody was suggesting that. But clearly if you think it is the same as oil or Armor All then you have no experience with it.
It's great for trim, plastic, chrome, aluminum, front grill, bumpers, frames, suspension. It's fine for oil resistant rubbers, but why would you put it on rubber? Don't put it on your door seals and then you won't have any issues.
My local body shop recommended FF to me as one of the products to be used to stop rust. I suggest that you should try it. It's obvious that you haven't so far.
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FF is not a replacement for a good paint job. Nobody was suggesting that. But clearly if you think it is the same as oil or Armor All then you have no experience with it.
It's great for trim, plastic, chrome, aluminum, front grill, bumpers, frames, suspension. It's fine for oil resistant rubbers, but why would you put it on rubber? Don't put it on your door seals and then you won't have any issues.
My local body shop recommended FF to me as one of the products to be used to stop rust. I suggest that you should try it. It's obvious that you haven't so far.
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The op is not looking to hide an oxidized paint job but fix it. Fluid film on oxidized paint is a bandaid at best and hack repair at worst.
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The op is not looking to hide an oxidized paint job but fix it. Fluid film on oxidized paint is a bandaid at best and hack repair at worst.
I usually don't classify a complete paint job as a "home remedy" like the OP asked about. FF has worked great for me and the cost was $0.75
But then I'm just a hack repair guy...
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I usually don't classify a complete paint job as a "home remedy" like the OP asked about. FF has worked great for me and the cost was $0.75
But then I'm just a hack repair guy...
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Not to mention it will dissolve the butyl windshield seal
As far as I know FF will not dissolve rubber. The issue is that may cause expansion of some non-oil resisting rubber. If you slather it on like a drunken sailor maybe you'll get expansion of your door seal. That's not how to apply FF. It's to be applied as a thin film and not applied directly on rubber. Incidental contact between the door frame and the rubber has caused zero expansion in going on three years now. Also incidental contact with rubberized undercoat has zero problems with dissolving or expanding for me.
Where did you get the idea that it dissolves rubber? I got zero results on a web search looking for fluid film dissolves butyl.
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As far as I know FF will not dissolve rubber. The issue is that may cause expansion of some non-oil resisting rubber. If you slather it on like a drunken sailor maybe you'll get expansion of your door seal. That's not how to apply FF. It's to be applied as a thin film and not applied directly on rubber. Incidental contact between the door frame and the rubber has caused zero expansion in going on three years now. Also incidental contact with rubberized undercoat has zero problems with dissolving or expanding for me.
Where did you get the idea that it dissolves rubber? I got zero results on a web search looking for fluid film dissolves butyl.
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Not to mention it will dissolve the butyl windshield seal
As far as I know FF will not dissolve rubber. The issue is that may cause expansion of some non-oil resisting rubber. If you slather it on like a drunken sailor maybe you'll get expansion of your door seal. That's not how to apply FF. It's to be applied as a thin film and not applied directly on rubber. Incidental contact between the door frame and the rubber has caused zero expansion in going on three years now. Also incidental contact with rubberized undercoat has zero problems with dissolving or expanding for me.
Where did you get the idea that it dissolves rubber? I got zero results on a web search looking for fluid film dissolves butyl.
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As far as I know FF will not dissolve rubber. The issue is that may cause expansion of some non-oil resisting rubber. If you slather it on like a drunken sailor maybe you'll get expansion of your door seal. That's not how to apply FF. It's to be applied as a thin film and not applied directly on rubber. Incidental contact between the door frame and the rubber has caused zero expansion in going on three years now. Also incidental contact with rubberized undercoat has zero problems with dissolving or expanding for me.
Where did you get the idea that it dissolves rubber? I got zero results on a web search looking for fluid film dissolves butyl.
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And it is NOT the door seals but the window lacing the doors seals are made from synthetic foam rubber. And have not been natural foam rubber since the 1960's.
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Do you know what the Butyl windshield sealer is made from? It is asphalt butyl mix this what keeps it from drying out and why it is like tar... Fluid Film dissolves asphalt as do any oils or solvents.
And it is NOT the door seals but the window lacing the doors seals are made from synthetic foam rubber. And have not been natural foam rubber since the 1960's.
And it is NOT the door seals but the window lacing the doors seals are made from synthetic foam rubber. And have not been natural foam rubber since the 1960's.
Here's a piece of 1/4" window sealer and some FF
Let's slather it on like a drunken sailor...
OK the test bed is set. We'll come back later and report on any reactions.
Sorry about the
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Do you know what the Butyl windshield sealer is made from? It is asphalt butyl mix this what keeps it from drying out and why it is like tar... Fluid Film dissolves asphalt as do any oils or solvents.
And it is NOT the door seals but the window lacing the doors seals are made from synthetic foam rubber. And have not been natural foam rubber since the 1960's.
And it is NOT the door seals but the window lacing the doors seals are made from synthetic foam rubber. And have not been natural foam rubber since the 1960's.
I put enough FF on that sample which could have done most of a front fender. About 1000 times what might get to touch the edge of the sealer compressed in the window fit when FF is properly applied to the painted body.
About how long will it take for Fluid Film to dissolve the butyl windshield sealer? Hours, days, weeks, months or years?
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Ford used the butyl window sealer for the original windshield installations but if you have had your windshield replaced anytime in the last 20 years it was likely installed with urethane adhesive rubber. These compounds are oil and gas resistant. Besides Fluid Film is not oil, contains no solvents...says so right on the can...formulated from lanolin...and after one day in contact with butyl sealer has done nothing to it but sit on top.
Your criticism of Fluid Film appears to be totally unfounded.
Prior to applying FF to my oxidized hood and roof the color had dropped back from a midnight blue to almost baby blue. FF restored the deep midnight blue color. I love this stuff and if you don't have $75,000 dollars for your wife's new truck you can make her smile when you put FF on the oxidized paint of her old truck for 75 cents.
Just my 2 cents...
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Your criticism of Fluid Film appears to be totally unfounded.
Prior to applying FF to my oxidized hood and roof the color had dropped back from a midnight blue to almost baby blue. FF restored the deep midnight blue color. I love this stuff and if you don't have $75,000 dollars for your wife's new truck you can make her smile when you put FF on the oxidized paint of her old truck for 75 cents.
Just my 2 cents...
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Ford used the butyl window sealer for the original windshield installations but if you have had your windshield replaced anytime in the last 20 years it was likely installed with urethane adhesive rubber. These compounds are oil and gas resistant. Besides Fluid Film is not oil, contains no solvents...says so right on the can...formulated from lanolin...and after one day in contact with butyl sealer has done nothing to it but sit on top.
Your criticism of Fluid Film appears to be totally unfounded.
Prior to applying FF to my oxidized hood and roof the color had dropped back from a midnight blue to almost baby blue. FF restored the deep midnight blue color. I love this stuff and if you don't have $75,000 dollars for your wife's new truck you can make her smile when you put FF on the oxidized paint of her old truck for 75 cents.
Just my 2 cents...
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Your criticism of Fluid Film appears to be totally unfounded.
Prior to applying FF to my oxidized hood and roof the color had dropped back from a midnight blue to almost baby blue. FF restored the deep midnight blue color. I love this stuff and if you don't have $75,000 dollars for your wife's new truck you can make her smile when you put FF on the oxidized paint of her old truck for 75 cents.
Just my 2 cents...
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If you glass installer installs windshield that was originally butyl with urethane find another installer. They are not backwards compatible. Butyle has give urethane does not and vehicles structures were nowhere near as stiff and the windshield to vehicle bond had to have some give.
And if you think that it is Lanolin better read the SDS... this first ingredient is Refined petroleum oil.....
And why would you coat the vehicle with what is essentially oil and then have to redo it every time it goes through the car wash. Or fix it properly and do not touch it again for the next several years for the cost of a litrally less than $20... And it did not restore the colour it just hid the oxidization.
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If you glass installer installs windshield that was originally butyl with urethane find another installer. They are not backwards compatible. Butyle has give urethane does not and vehicles structures were nowhere near as stiff and the windshield to vehicle bond had to have some give.
And why would you coat the vehicle with what is essentially oil and then have to redo it every time it goes through the car wash. Or fix it properly and do not touch it again for the next several years for the cost of a litrally less than $20... And it did not restore the colour it just hid the oxidization.
And yes it did restore the deep rich color while providing an excellent wax-like look that repels water. Very low maintenance, long lasting. All for about 75 cents worth of product and about 30 minutes time.
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