Idaho Pass Smog
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Idaho Pass Smog
First I am getting ready to retire and am looking to buy a retirement truck I really like the 2009 2010 F250.
I mostly read just horror stories about the 6.4 are they really that bad.
I do realize you always find negative on the web but from 6.4 owners what is the truth.
I don't mind doing a EGR and a DPF delete but I don't want make more power stock is fine I know I will have get some type of tuner to make it work.
I am in CA but after I retire I am moving to Boise Idaho area will I be fine there with EGR and DPF delete I have no idea what they do for smog checks there and will it pass with the deletes done.
Or will Bulletproof EGR and DPF delete be good enough just put the DPF when smog check due.
We will not be towing much with the truck but I want a truck so in the future I can tow a travel trailer when we want to.
Where we are moving every thing close by and the truck will have a easy life spending most time in the garage.
I know every 120K or so I will have to replace the rocker arms but I like to tinker so it might be good for me.
I read keep the oil changed every 5K also helps get the 6.4 to last.
I not going to be pushing this truck do really need head studs or worry about cracking pistons with DPF delete.
Like I said I not going race the truck tow much I be like me and the wife kicking back and enjoying retirement life.
I mostly read just horror stories about the 6.4 are they really that bad.
I do realize you always find negative on the web but from 6.4 owners what is the truth.
I don't mind doing a EGR and a DPF delete but I don't want make more power stock is fine I know I will have get some type of tuner to make it work.
I am in CA but after I retire I am moving to Boise Idaho area will I be fine there with EGR and DPF delete I have no idea what they do for smog checks there and will it pass with the deletes done.
Or will Bulletproof EGR and DPF delete be good enough just put the DPF when smog check due.
We will not be towing much with the truck but I want a truck so in the future I can tow a travel trailer when we want to.
Where we are moving every thing close by and the truck will have a easy life spending most time in the garage.
I know every 120K or so I will have to replace the rocker arms but I like to tinker so it might be good for me.
I read keep the oil changed every 5K also helps get the 6.4 to last.
I not going to be pushing this truck do really need head studs or worry about cracking pistons with DPF delete.
Like I said I not going race the truck tow much I be like me and the wife kicking back and enjoying retirement life.
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I would say if you like to tinker and don’t mind spending lots of saved up cash at a time on repairs go for it. They are powerful trucks. By far the nicest I ever owned. Just remember a saying from a very knowledgable guy here. “They are great until the break, when they break its expensive”. Are you sold on the 6.4 or do you like this body style? I noticed the 08-10 year range. If you are not sold on the diesel I would look for a V-10 in those year ranges. Last years for the V-10 in the F250-F350 trucks, but a very reliable engine. Hope whichever way you go it turns out good for you and you have an enjoyable retirement.
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Some parts of Idaho around Boise do smog checks, I believe.
I wouldn’t say run away, but given that there are used 6.7s now that have almost no emission issues, I’d buy a 6.7 if I was buying one right now. When I bought my 6.4, that wasn’t really a good choice since the 6.7s were much more expensive.
I don’t agree that you need to change rocker arms at 120K. Could be true for some. I had multiple issues with the DPF part of my truck. MPG is much improved now and up to 3-4 mpg better. My truck gets better MPG than my friends 6.7 even though my truck is a F450 with 4.30s and he drives slower. My trucks has significantly more power. It’s not all bad. It’s simply not worth trading my 6.4 for a 6.7.
Like I said, given there are so many 6.7 used trucks out there now, I’d buy a 6.7 and skip the really bad DPF implementation on the 6.4. Kind of a shame, really.
One more thought is unless you really need a diesel, think about the gasoline engines. Diesel costs a lot more in a many areas.
I wouldn’t say run away, but given that there are used 6.7s now that have almost no emission issues, I’d buy a 6.7 if I was buying one right now. When I bought my 6.4, that wasn’t really a good choice since the 6.7s were much more expensive.
I don’t agree that you need to change rocker arms at 120K. Could be true for some. I had multiple issues with the DPF part of my truck. MPG is much improved now and up to 3-4 mpg better. My truck gets better MPG than my friends 6.7 even though my truck is a F450 with 4.30s and he drives slower. My trucks has significantly more power. It’s not all bad. It’s simply not worth trading my 6.4 for a 6.7.
Like I said, given there are so many 6.7 used trucks out there now, I’d buy a 6.7 and skip the really bad DPF implementation on the 6.4. Kind of a shame, really.
One more thought is unless you really need a diesel, think about the gasoline engines. Diesel costs a lot more in a many areas.
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Yes they are lower on HP but bulletproof and know to be a million plus mile motor.
Yes I know the transmission is going to go out thats the bad part.
But what I am going use it for it will work.
As I mentioned before I had a 1997 F350 new back in the day and worked out fine but did put new transmission in it under warranty and it put out trans light and had to be flushed out.
Only motor problem it ever gave me was an Idler pulley bearing went out.
I had to turn it in because of 9-11 I was working for the Airlines and we all got laid off.
Yes I know the transmission is going to go out thats the bad part.
But what I am going use it for it will work.
As I mentioned before I had a 1997 F350 new back in the day and worked out fine but did put new transmission in it under warranty and it put out trans light and had to be flushed out.
Only motor problem it ever gave me was an Idler pulley bearing went out.
I had to turn it in because of 9-11 I was working for the Airlines and we all got laid off.
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My 7.3 gave up the ghost at 291,000 miles. Broken piston ring. But replacement engine is running great. Will drive until the wheels fall off. Lower on power but you can’t go wrong with a 7.3 IMHO.
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