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Originally Posted by AZSCAWPION View Post
Assuming you mean the "custom cab" door handle trim, those are '64 and earlier. '66 would have "custom cab' script on the door, hence the 7 holes below the window and are reproduced.
Gotcha. That makes sense. I've got a set of Custom Cab scripts coming to me from Ebay. Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by 66v8baby View Post
I wasn't able to find a decent F250 Camper Special, so I'm creating one from a base model. It took a while for me to find the correct heavy duty spindles and hubs.....
?? What was different about the spindles and hubs?

I thought FoMoCo used the same spindles and hubs on the '65/'66 F250 (4X2) whether it was a base standard F250 or a F250CS truck?

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Originally Posted by BarnieTrk View Post
?? What was different about the spindles and hubs?

I thought FoMoCo used the same spindles and hubs on the '65/'66 F250 (4X2) whether it was a base standard F250 or a F250CS truck?
OP has a 1966 F250 Camper Special.

1966/72 F250 Camper Special & 1966/72 F250 2WD with 7,500 lbs. GVWR have 12" x 2 1/2" front/rear drum brakes.

The spindles and hubs are different than 1965/72 F250 2WD's that have 12 1/8" x 2" front/rear drum brakes.
 
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The easiest way to identify HD F250 spindles is they have the steering arm built in as part of the spindle. The 65 to 70 light duty F250 spindle is made from the same forging as the F100 spindle with a removable steering arm. The only difference being slightly larger bearing journals, the outer bearing journal being 27/32nds vs 3/4" on the F100. The inner wheel bearing on the standard F250 spindle has the same OD as the F100, but the outer WB has a larger 1.965 vs 1.781 OD so you can't use the 65 to 69 hub on this spindle. The bolt pattern for the backing plate is different as is the offset for the wider brakes, so you can't bolt this plate on the standard spindle. The shoe retaining hardware and springs are also different.

On the rear, the backing plate has a deeper offset like the front. The wider 2 1/2" rear brakes were available all the way into the 80s or 90s when the Dana 60 was replaced by the Ford Sterling rear axle, so they're easy to find and replace.

The light duty F250 spindle replaced the standard F100 spindle beginning in '70 until 72 the last year drum brakes were standard. So if you want to beef up the front suspension of an F100 and get better brakes as part of the bargain, you can use 65 to 70 F250 standard/light duty spindles with 70 to 72 F100 hubs and backing plates for the 3" front drums, which is what I'm doing on my '66 F100.
 

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Larry, I'm glad you mentioned that. I've looked at my spindles with integral arms and wondered why my 1975 MPC listed them separate as C5TZ-3130-A and C5TZ-3131-A but my truck doesn't use the separate arms and my 4x4 trucks of course use a completely different spindle and arm setup. What you said was sort of what I was suspecting, but I couldn't find any references.

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C5TZ-3105-A .. Spindle / Right/Left is the same / Stamped: C5TA-3107-A / Obsolete

1965/70 F250 2WD with 12 1/8" x 2" front drum brakes.
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C6TZ-3105-G .. Right Spindle / Stamped: C6TA-3107-D / Obsolete

C6TZ-3106-F .. Left Spindle / Stamped: C6TA-3108-B / Obsolete

1966/67 F250 2WD with 12" x 2 1/2" front drum brakes.
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C8TZ-3105-A .. Right Spindle / Stamped: C8TA-3107-C or C9TA-3107-A / Obsolete

C8TZ-3106-A .. Left Spindle / Stamped: C8TA-3108-C or C9TA-3108-A / Obsolete

1968/71 F250 2WD with 12" x 2 1/2" front drum brakes.
 
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Looks like I did have the right spindle part number figured out - it's just the spindle arm (3130/3131) that doesn't show the 12 1/8" x 2" brakes (Section 30.2 Column D) being the application for those so I wasn't sure exactly what was up there. Makes sense now. Thanks.

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Looks like I did have the right spindle part number figured out - it's just the spindle arm (3130/3131) that doesn't show the 12 1/8" x 2" brakes (Section 30.2 Column D) being the application for those so I wasn't sure exactly what was up there. Makes sense now. Thanks.

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30.2C = 12 1/8" x 2" // 30.2D = 12" x 2 1/2."

ALL 1956/65 F250's have 12 1/8" x 2" front/rear drum brakes, as do some 1966/72 F250's. But some 1966/72 F250's could also have 12" x 2 1/2" front/rear drum brakes.

1968/72 F250 2WD's with optional dual piston caliper front disc brakes have 12" x 2 1/2" rear drum brakes.

1966/75 F250 4WD's have 12 1/8" x 2" front drum brakes, 12" x 2 1/2" rear drum brakes.

 
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Yep, and if you look at 30.2D it shows 3130/3131 but that's not correct since they don't seem to use a separate spindle arm. Just a mistake I'd tend to believe.

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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
OP has a 1966 F250 Camper Special.

1966/72 F250 Camper Special & 1966/72 F250 2WD with 7,500 lbs. GVWR have 12" x 2 1/2" front/rear drum brakes.

The spindles and hubs are different than 1965/72 F250 2WD's that have 12 1/8" x 2" front/rear drum brakes.
You Guys learned me sumptin' again..!!! I know,,, I should have taken the time to just...

I didn't realize the the '66 F250s could have 12 1/8" x 2" - OR - 12" x 2 1/2" front drum brakes.

I had thought the 12" x 2 1/2" were not available until '67 F250s....

Thanks again, Guys!!

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Just thought I'd post the complete pic from my trim mockup. I'm really getting a kick out of driving and tinkering with this truck. Digging the banter on this thread as well. If anyone wants a close up of anything mechanical just give me a holler.

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