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Getting a new truck

So what are the current differences between 250 and a 350. I want a Crew Cab, Long bed SRW . Are the brakes the same? Pay load? Axle?

I been happy with my 2012. Just time to get a new truck

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Women prefer a 350.

But seriously, I believe the f350 has more payload. My lariat cclb has 3600#
 
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My dad gets much better mileage out of his 17í 250 then I do with my 16í 350. Different platforms and Iím sure the gearing in the rear end contributes to that but itís significant. I think the 250ís get better mileage overall anyway.
He towes a massive 5th wheel with his air bags but doesnít like towing the 28í boat so I tow it with the 350. I would suspect he could do it but heís towed it before and wasnít overly comfortable with it. Both these trucks are fairly stock except for his has air bags.
The little I know about it, there ya go.
When my 19í 350 gets here in a week or two it will be interesting to see the differences.
 
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There's very little differences between the 250 and 350, just depends on how much payload and what license/reg fees you want to pay. Check with your DMV, it's different everywhere.
 
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Rear axle and rear springs are different from srw 350 to 250.

The longbed 350 SRW has a bigger hitch and therefore tow rating.

I think the 250 tow rating is like 15,XXX lbs gooseneck and conventual. The 350 is hovering around 20k. I’d recommend you look that up to get the exact spec on what you want.
 
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Payload difference is about 1500 pounds (10000 vs 11500 GVWRs)

350 has a higher rated rear spring pack.
350 come standard with the Dana axle, where the 250 gets the Sterling. The Dana is an option on the 250 heavy tow package.
As was said above, the 350 gets the 3 inch hitch, while the 250 gets the 2.5. The Heavy tow package 250 does get the 3 inch as well.

Engine, Transmission, Brake, Cooling Front Suspension are all the same for them.
 
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For a gas truck, the hitch and axle are the same, but the transmission is different.

The differences for the diesel are well explained above.
 
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Unless I absolutely knew I'd never tow fifth wheels or heavy, I would always get a 350, especially if ordering. Buying off the lot, most dealers have way more 250's, so it can be a challenge to find the right truck. There are quite a few posts on ford-trucks about 250's right at max, or being overweight. A little more money up front can save some headaches down the road.
 
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There are 3 levels of F-250: gas, diesel, and diesel + heavy tow package. What you get will affect the rear springs, axle, transmission, hitch, and your various ratings (payload, etc.).
There are 2 levels of F-350: gas and diesel.

So, it's important to know how you're comparing. If you're comparing the F-350 diesel to the F-250 gas, there are more differences. If you're comparing the F-250 diesel/heavy tow to the F-350 diesel, the physical difference will be a 5th leaf that shows up in the F-350 rear spring pack and about $50.

Some areas/states/municipalities tax a 1-ton differently than a 3/4-ton. In those places, there are reasons to go with an F-250. Everywhere else, I'd opt for the 1-ton.

An F-250 diesel will have a payload in the low to mid 2,000 lb range, which is pretty low. The engine will pull a heavy load, but the truck will often be over its payload ratings.
 
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I do overload the current payload of the current 350. I don't like the squat I have seen in some 250.

I will park 2 can-am 4 wheelers in the back then bumper pull a trailer. Its pretty heavy and the 350 overload spring do engage in this configuration. I know I give up some road comfort with a 350. Put the dealer have tons of 250 and very few if any 350 srw crew. I might have to order to get what I want.


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I do overload the current payload of the current 350. I don't like the squat I have seen in some 250.

I will park 2 can-am 4 wheelers in the back then bumper pull a trailer. Its pretty heavy and the 350 overload spring do engage in this configuration. I know I give up some road comfort with a 350. Put the dealer have tons of 250 and very few if any 350 srw crew. I might have to order to get what I want.


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Payload is low on a 250 diesel because of the 10k GVWR rating all 250 / 2500 series trucks have. It is kind of artificially low, since an F-250 and F-350 weigh a very similar amount, but to get payload you are subtracting truck weight from 10,000 on a 250 and 11,400 on a 350. Gas 250's have decent payload, but that's apparently not what you are after.

All things considered, I'd get a 350, although my last 2017 F-250 seemed to squat quite a bit less than my 2012 or 2016 F-250s I owned. A 250 certainly is less harsh on the bumps, too...but in reality all HD trucks ride kind of rough.
 
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Originally Posted by donovan View Post
I do overload the current payload of the current 350. I don't like the squat I have seen in some 250.

I will park 2 can-am 4 wheelers in the back then bumper pull a trailer. Its pretty heavy and the 350 overload spring do engage in this configuration. I know I give up some road comfort with a 350. Put the dealer have tons of 250 and very few if any 350 srw crew. I might have to order to get what I want.


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Specific differences are limited as noted above. Rear axle and springs, hitch etc...

Functionally, both have virtually the same conventional towing limits. Gooseneck/5th Wheel differences are significant.

The difference comes down to payload. If you need the payload, get a 350. If you don't, get a 250. I will likely never tow a goodneck or 5'er and seldom haul much of anything. I use the truck primarily to tow a bumper pull car hauler that's less than 10K lbs. Therefore, I didn't need a 350 and bought a 250 and am very happy.
 
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So what are the current differences between 250 and a 350. I want a Crew Cab, Long bed SRW . Are the brakes the same? Pay load? Axle?

I been happy with my 2012. Just time to get a new truck

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Assuming you’ll order the 6.7L diesel, then the brakes and the transmissions (6R140) are the same.

The key mechanical differences are the rear springs and axle. The F250’s standard rear springs are three leaves. The optional camper package has four leaves. The rear axle is a Sterling.

All F350 SRWs with the diesel are equipped with five leaf rear springs. The rear axle is a Dana.

An exception is the F250 diesel crewcab longbed with the optional High Capacity Tow Package. It comes with the five leaf rear springs and the Dana axle.

All F250s are limited to 10,000 lbs.GVWR, unless you order the optional no-cost 9,900 lbs.GVWR paper downgrade. With typical options, I’d estimate the F250 diesel 4x4 CCLB’s “official” payload (driver, passengers, cargo, aftermarket accessories, etc.) to be ~2,100 lbs., give or take.

The GVWR for a similar F350 SRW 4x4 would be 11,500 lbs,, with a payload of ~3,400 lbs.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer

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[...] An exception is the F250 diesel crewcab longbed with the optional High Capacity Tow Package. It comes with the five leaf rear springs [...]
I don't think that's true, but I could be wrong. Per the Ford documents, there is only one configuration of the F-250 that gets the 5 leaf pack: 4x2 Gas 8' bed withe Trailer Tow heavy-duty (see Note 5 below). And, of course, that's not a configuration that can be ordered ... you cannot get a gas + HD tow. So, my conclusion is that this is not a viable option. The only way to get a 5 leaf pack is with an F-350.

 
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As far as number of leafs. my 2017 CC SB 250 Heavy Duty Tow package has 4.
 

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