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Old Mar 18, 2019 | 09:01 PM
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Bracketed or non bracketed calipers?

1991 F-150, 302, E4OD, 4X2

I am doing the brakes and while trying to order calipers, I was asked if they're bracketed or non bracketed. I've done calipers on multiple vehicles throughout my life but every one I've done had brackets on the caliper so this is new to me. I can't take it apart to find out because it's my only vehicle and I'll have no way to get to he parts store if I do. How can I find out if it has brackets or not?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2019 | 10:15 PM
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I'm not familiar with f150's or two wheel drive but can't you just look underneath from the backside and see the calliper and inner pad? At the most pull a tire off and look them over?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2019 | 10:33 PM
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'91-93 or so was still slide pin calipers. Both of my '95's are bracket type.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2019 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by timbersteel
'91-93 or so was still slide pin calipers. Both of my '95's are bracket type.
Would I be able to install bracketed ones or will I need to make some modifications? I've never done slide pin before so I'd feel more comfortable installing bracketed.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2019 | 12:34 AM
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Would I be able to install bracketed ones or will I need to make some modifications? I've never done slide pin before so I'd feel more comfortable installing bracketed.
I have both and actually like the slides better. What about them makes you uncomfortable? Sandy
 
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Old Mar 19, 2019 | 01:00 AM
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I have both and actually like the slides better. What about them makes you uncomfortable? Sandy
I've never done non bracketed/slide pin type before and don't know how much more difficult/different it is than bracketed. I don't want to mess something up in the installation process due to lack of experience.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2019 | 01:17 AM
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I've never done non bracketed/slide pin type before and don't know how much more difficult/different it is than bracketed. I don't want to mess something up in the installation process due to lack of experience.
I understand. The sliders are two pieces. I just use a flat screwdriver that catches both sides of the sliders together and will fit through the hole and knock them out. You can use anything that fits like that. You reuse them. When finished just do the reverse to reinstall them together. Front to back. Do one side at a time. Sounds easy and is. Sandy
 
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i never reuse slide pins, they are cheap enough to not worry about them falling apart from old age.
slide pins will go in either way, but have a wide side and narrow side.
if you look closely at the caliper and mount, you will see one side is wider than the other.
if put in the wrong way, they can fall out.
other than that, they are a very simple and safe system .
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
i never reuse slide pins, they are cheap enough to not worry about them falling apart from old age .
I have reused them for many many years and several brake jobs only replacing them when either the rubber starts coming apart or the two halves separate. To each his/her own. I have never had one fall out.

It is a much easier setup to use. Simply drive out the pins to remove the caliper.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2019 | 10:56 PM
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Would I be able to install bracketed ones or will I need to make some modifications? I've never done slide pin before so I'd feel more comfortable installing bracketed.
You will find they are shockingly easy to work with, no worries!
 
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I feel for the "sit arounds" the trucks that don't get driven enough, the bracketed wear better and have better drivability. Which ones easier to work on,ehhh......
 
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Originally Posted by Workingstiff
...the bracketed wear better and have better drivability. Which ones easier to work on,ehhh......
Bracketed wear better and have better drivability....ehhhhh

If the slide/ guide pins are properly lubricated the pads wear evenly. You also need to lube the contact points on the bracket type. As to driveability, I have owned both and there is no difference.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 06:45 AM
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Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have put the driveability,part in there, what I am saying is to me the slides get gunked up easier and they are more likely to stick and wear the pads a bit, up here in the rust belt, anyway. Owned and driven both.


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Originally Posted by Workingstiff
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have put the driveability,part in there, what I am saying is to me the slides get gunked up easier and they are more likely to stick and wear the pads a bit, up here in the rust belt, anyway. Owned and driven both.


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i have the exact opposite .my older trucks can sit forever without brake problems. the 2000, 2002, 2004, sit for 3 months and i have to take them apart and grease up the slide pins, and every 10-12 months i have to replace the seized calipers.
 
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