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Old 03-14-2019, 08:38 PM
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Aftermarket oil pan

I found my oil pan has a small crack and needs to be replaced. Rather than replacing it with a stock pan, I'm looking at an aftermarket pan. I found this one https://www.ebay.com/i/223182679107?chn=ps&ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frov er.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-117182-37290-0%252F2%253Fmpre%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww .ebay.com%25252Fi%25252F223182679107%25253Fchn%252 53Dps%2526itemid%253D223182679107%2526targetid%253 D593772339733%2526device%253Dm%2526adtype%253Dpla% 2526googleloc%253D9029463%2526poi%253D%2526campaig nid%253D1689945013%2526adgroupid%253D69559042287%2 526rlsatarget%253Dpla-593772339733%2526abcId%253D1140466%2526merchantid% 253D6296724%2526gclid%253DCjwKCAjw96fkBRA2EiwAKZjF TYdd7OZyspMlrlNH_44a-q5W9io7qWBTD_ymhzXWuCU6xdolH1L5aRoCnnYQAvD_BwE%252 6srcrot%253D711-117182-37290-0%2526rvr_id%253D1895678982996%2526rvr_ts%253D7ef6 dd3b1690ac1f8d25eddeffcf09d7
seems good quality. Anyone have any experience with it? Pros? Cons? Thanks.
 
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You didn't give any info about your truck. Does it have the plastic pan or the steel pan?

You can get a steel pan and do the same for about half the price. There has been no conclusive evidence on the forums I visit that a cast aluminum pan with fins actually keeps the oil cooler.

here is a better link for people to check out the pan you are inquiring about....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MFD-Heavy-D...-/223182679107
 
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:13 PM
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You didn't give any info about your truck. Does it have the plastic pan or the steel pan?

You can get a steel pan and do the same for about half the price. There has been no conclusive evidence on the forums I visit that a cast aluminum pan with fins actually keeps the oil cooler.

here is a better link for people to check out the pan you are inquiring about....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MFD-Heavy-D...-/223182679107
My signature should have clued you in on my truck, but I don't see it anywhere... 2013 f350 scab dually. I have the metal pan already. The aluminum also holds 2 more quarts of oil.
 
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just an added expense each oil change when you need to add 2 quarts more oil. And, if the oil is going to overheat, which i doubt, it will just take a little longer to overheat the other two quarts.

It is your money, do what you think is best, but will say, there are millions of 6.7l trucks on the road with stock oil pans, plastic and steel, and no overheat problems the the oil.
 
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Do you know what caused your metal pan to crack?
 
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If I was in the position of needing to replace my oil pan I would be looking at an oversized pan. My truck doesn't overheat but the engine oil does get into the 240's. A couple extra quarts of oil might be enough to keep the temperature down below 240° F when going over mountain passes. There is a forum member ("CO Wapiti") that put in an oversized pan. He reported positive results as I recall.
 
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Once the oil is hot, the extra two quarts can make a difference, true, but the problem is that for most driving conditions, the oil is less likely to reach operating temperature in the first place. And while an aluminum pan is a bit lighter than steel, the aluminum is not going to transmit heat as evenly or as quickly as a steel pan. The steel pan is going to have much thinner construction and will actually heat up and cool down more quickly than a thicker walled aluminum pan. If damaged, a steel pan can be welded, and will often only dent, whereas an aluminum pan is going to shatter, resulting in a catastrophic oil loss.
If oil temperature is a concern, the best approach is a thermostatically controlled auxiliary oil cooler.
 
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If I was in the position of needing to replace my oil pan I would be looking at an oversized pan. My truck doesn't overheat but the engine oil does get into the 240's. A couple extra quarts of oil might be enough to keep the temperature down below 240° F when going over mountain passes. There is a forum member ("CO Wapiti") that put in an oversized pan. He reported positive results as I recall.
I highly doubt the additional 2 quarts are going to change the oil temps. I also doubt the extra will affect the oil temps going over mountain passes. It it were a problem, why didn't Ford put a 15 qt pan/filter on like the 7.3? Once the oil gets hot, it is all hot. The 2 extra quarts will be the same temp as the other 13 quarts.

Also, seeing how the oil on the 6.7 is water cooled via the oil cooler, doesn't one think there would be a coolant temp problem also if the oil temp was a problem?

Again, millions of trucks out there that haul and tow huge loads beyond a 5th wheel or tag along trailer that have no reports of oil temp problems. Search the forums here and you will only find people asking about the temp going to 240-245* when towing in the mountains and say it drops almost immediately to normal temps once you crest and head down the other side.

But is your dollars, go for it.
 
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Originally Posted by wrvond
Once the oil is hot, the extra two quarts can make a difference, true, but the problem is that for most driving conditions, the oil is less likely to reach operating temperature in the first place. And while an aluminum pan is a bit lighter than steel, the aluminum is not going to transmit heat as evenly or as quickly as a steel pan. The steel pan is going to have much thinner construction and will actually heat up and cool down more quickly than a thicker walled aluminum pan. If damaged, a steel pan can be welded, and will often only dent, whereas an aluminum pan is going to shatter, resulting in a catastrophic oil loss.
If oil temperature is a concern, the best approach is a thermostatically controlled auxiliary oil cooler.
I suspect the cast aluminum pan weighs more than the steel pan due to thick construction than the steel pan. Probably triple the weight if not more. Dorman pan 264-452 has a shipping weight of approx 2.1 pounds counting the box weight.
 
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Aluminum is a much better conductor of heat than steel. but that pan appears to have a crinkle paint job that may make it worse than stock.

Steel pans are not easily welded, you can chase a crack all the way across because of the type of steel used for deep draws.
 
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The PO of my truck must have over torqued the drain plug. There is a hairline crack around the threads. At this price point, I don't really see a down side to trying it. I'll order it and report back.
 
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If you want to lower the temperature of your oil look at https://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/Bu...-p/6502285.htm. It lowered mine in the neighborhood of 7 - 10 degrees. Now it's still winter in the northeast so really can't get a good guage on what the impact is going to be towing my 22' trailer in August.
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck-B
If you want to lower the temperature of your oil look at https://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/Bu...-p/6502285.htm. It lowered mine in the neighborhood of 7 - 10 degrees. Now it's still winter in the northeast so really can't get a good guage on what the impact is going to be towing my 22' trailer in August.
I'll be watching Chuck. Real curious on that as well. A larger OEM style oil cooler should have a bigger effect on oil temps than an oil pan. Keep us posted.
 
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I'm not too worried about oil temps. No issues thus far. I just have to replace the cracked pan, and figured a couple extra quarts of capacity couldn't hurt... I ordered the pan and it should be here next week. It comes with an o-ring, but I want to use the correct RTV as well. Looking around, all the RTV I'm seeing is listed as for the 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4. Is this the same stuff as for the 6.7? I know early on, there was an issue with the RTV used on an older Powerstroke which caused oil to foam. Thinking it was the 6.0. In any case, I want to make sure I get the right stuff.
 
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Nice pan. I've seen it online before. Take pics when it's on. I'm sure someone will chime in who knows better. But go to the dealer for the right stuff. Can't be that expensive for a tube of RTV.
 


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