New power steering pump gone bad
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New power steering pump gone bad
Back in January I replaced my original power steering pump on my 79 F150 because it started making a constant metallic grinding sound. I figured the bearing was going so I replaced it with a rebuilt Cardone brand one. The noise stopped with the new one installed, so problem fixed! Yesterday, the new pump started making the same noise. Almost like someone is holding a screwdriver against the pulley while its spinning. I checked for rubbing and nothing. I did some troubleshooting by removing the belts and the noise stopped with the PS belt removed. What would be causing my pumps to fail? I flushed the system using type F ATF and the fluid is not foamy or low. Could the noise actually be coming from the water pump, but the belt being off is taking lateral tension off that bearing? It's hard to tell exactly where the sound is coming from.
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Back in January I replaced my original power steering pump on my 79 F150 because it started making a constant metallic grinding sound. I figured the bearing was going so I replaced it with a rebuilt Cardone brand one. The noise stopped with the new one installed, so problem fixed! Yesterday, the new pump started making the same noise. Almost like someone is holding a screwdriver against the pulley while its spinning. I checked for rubbing and nothing. I did some troubleshooting by removing the belts and the noise stopped with the PS belt removed. What would be causing my pumps to fail? I flushed the system using type F ATF and the fluid is not foamy or low. Could the noise actually be coming from the water pump, but the belt being off is taking lateral tension off that bearing? It's hard to tell exactly where the sound is coming from.
What motor are you running?
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I have two crank pulleys for the 351M/400, one is for A/C and one is for non-A/C trucks.
Non-A/C Crank pulleys have 3 sheaths in total - Smog Pump, Power Steering Pump, Alternator (in that order from the block outwards).
A/C Crank pulleys have 4 sheaths in total - Smog Pump, Power Steering Pump, Alternator, A/C (I'm not sure that this order is correct... but I do know that it has 4 sheaths)
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Did you flush the box before reconnecting the return line back up ? There is more crap trapped in the steering box than you could imagine from years of use plus all the crap that came from the old pump when it went bad. If you didn't ? then all the crap that was trapped in the box went right through your new pump causing the eventual pump failure.
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Did you flush the box before reconnecting the return line back up ? There is more crap trapped in the steering box than you could imagine from years of use plus all the crap that came from the old pump when it went bad. If you didn't ? then all the crap that was trapped in the box went right through your new pump causing the eventual pump failure.
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No, I'm not talking about bleeding the air from it, I'm talking about flushing all the debris out of the steering box that your old pump put out before it died. When your pump was going bad it more than likely put debris out, contaminating the fluid. All that debris was being pumped right into your steering box and that's where it stayed. Then you put a new pump on, you started it up and as soon as it started pumping, it pumped all that debris and the left over contaminated fluid that was left in the steering box and lines right into your new pump causing it to end up going bad. You can't just put a new pump on after something has failed in the system, you have to flush the system out first.
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No, I'm not talking about bleeding the air from it, I'm talking about flushing all the debris out of the steering box that your old pump put out before it died. When your pump was going bad it more than likely put debris out, contaminating the fluid. All that debris was being pumped right into your steering box and that's where it stayed. Then you put a new pump on, you started it up and as soon as it started pumping, it pumped all that debris and the left over contaminated fluid that was left in the steering box and lines right into your new pump causing it to end up going bad. You can't just put a new pump on after something has failed in the system, you have to flush the system out first.
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If you are still looking for the noise, get a stethoscope. You can find cheap ones at the auto parts stores. Assemble it and put it where you think the noise is. Note: Be very careful as you are placing the tool near moving parts! I have used this tool a few times to locate exact fan squeal and external equipment bearing issues.
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If you are still looking for the noise, get a stethoscope. You can find cheap ones at the auto parts stores. Assemble it and put it where you think the noise is. Note: Be very careful as you are placing the tool near moving parts! I have used this tool a few times to locate exact fan squeal and external equipment bearing issues.
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Thanks guys! I think I may a messed up by not flushing the system properly. Luckily it’s pretty easy and relatively cheap. I may just put another new one on and flush it the right way. If I flush it with the bad pump on, I’m just adding more junk, right? If I flush with the new one in, I’m sending crap through it as well?
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