2015-16 F350 SRW Payload info help.

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2015-16 F350 SRW Payload info help.

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Trying to filter through all the Ford advertised Payload, GVWR and Axel Ratios. I can see where they say in the below chart that you can get a payload of 3800lbs but cant cross reference that to see what diff is required and what option package (ie Lariat, KR etc) allows the 3800lb payload.
Since its going to be a daily driver as well we are looking to have the highest diff that affords us the payload in the 3800lb area.
Other option but not crazy about it is just throwing in the towel and getting a DRW with 3:55 diffs and forgetting about Payload, GVWR, GCWR etc as this would be lots of truck for our needs. One plus is the box rail height is less than the SRW by about 3 inches so better for the 5ver.
Kinda in a spot here...can anyone help clarify the SRW ratings a bit more? I have attached a sheet I was looking at and would like to be in that 3800lb payload area with King Ranch and 3:55 diffs...is that possible?.
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My 16 F350 XLT SWD CCSB 6.2 with 3.73 gears with the 10,800 GVWR shows a max payload of 3,633 per the door tag. I'm not sure if you're going to find a King Ranch (lots of options) SWD with 3.55 gearing with 3800lb payload as you'd be looking at a diesel engine which takes away from the available payload (they are heavy motors).
 
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Those ratings are for a bare bones truck. No King Ranch truck will have that 3800 lb rating.
 
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Couple of questions:
- How heavy is your 5er?
- Why do you want 3:55's if your going to pull a 5th wheel?
 
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Thanks, Drew999999, that helps us. Cheers
 
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
Those ratings are for a bare bones truck. No King Ranch truck will have that 3800 lb rating.
Thanks, wish this info was easier to find. Why wouldn't they put the trim level of trucks and the gear ratio with the payload info. Kinda crucial info really..
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Originally Posted by ssunit1
Couple of questions:
- How heavy is your 5er?
- Why do you want 3:55's if your going to pull a 5th wheel?
Ready to roll its ~13,000 lbs
I am finding lots of info on the newer diesel engines and tranny's (all brands) that are saying with the high torque specs and tranny gearing that the 3:55 is the new 3:73 and possibly the new 4:10.
13k is light for these trucks and I don't have a heavy foot off the line or need to be at the top of the hill doing 110 km/hr so 3:55 will be better for my daily drive to work (100 km round trip) and will pull fine as well.
Hope that explains our situation ok.
We are running about 3400 lbs payload at this time (pin weight, hitch, odds and ends in box) so looking for a truck that offers a bit more margin of comfort. I don't like running right to the pin and thought we might get away with a F350 SRW with some creature comforts.
So with the first couple replies I had on my post it doesn't look like the SRW will be possible..
I am open to conversation otherwise.. Cheers
 
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Originally Posted by Watsy
Thanks, wish this info was easier to find. Why wouldn't they put the trim level of trucks and the gear ratio with the payload info. Kinda crucial info really..
Cheers
Ford has included weight rating disclaimers in their RV and Trailer Towing Guides for many years. Unfortunately, the vague language, small print, and buried locations can make it difficult to find. The 2019 Guide includes bolder disclaimer language, print size, and locations.

Gear ratios often affect GCWR (and max trailer weights by association), but they typically don’t affect vehicle GVWR or payload. For example, our truck’s 10,600 lbs. GVWR is the same with either a 3.73 or a 4.30 axle ratio.

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Ford has included weight rating disclaimers in their RV and Trailer Towing Guides for many years. Unfortunately, the vague language, small print, and buried locations can make it difficult to find. The 2019 Guide includes bolder disclaimer language, print size, and locations.

Gear ratios often affect GCWR (and max trailer weights by association), but they typically don’t affect vehicle GVWR or payload. For example, our truck’s 10,600 lbs. GVWR is the same with either a 3.73 or a 4.30 axle ratio.

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Quote..."Unfortunately, the vague language, small print, and buried locations can make it difficult to find."
No kidding..true story right there...

Any idea how I find out what configuration it would take to get to the 10,800 lb GVWR which allows me 3800 payload or even better yet 11,300 GVWR and 4270 payload? That's the confusing part it seems.
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Quote..."Unfortunately, the vague language, small print, and buried locations can make it difficult to find."
No kidding..true story right there...

Any idea how I find out what configuration it would take to get to the 10,800 lb GVWR which allows me 3800 payload or even better yet 11,300 GVWR and 4270 payload? That's the confusing part it seems.
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Model (F250 vs F350; rear axle and springs in particular), cab- and bed configuration, engine (6.2 vs. 6.7), drivetrain (4x2 vs 4x4), tires, and "paper reductions" are all ingredients of the magical mystery stew. Try looking at this 2016 Super Duty Specs document, starting on "page #77" for the F350 SRW. Note that max payload numbers are typically based on lowest trim and minimal/zero options.

10,800 and 3800? See “page #79”.
11,300 and 4270? See "page #80".

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Originally Posted by Watsy
Quote..."Unfortunately, the vague language, small print, and buried locations can make it difficult to find."
No kidding..true story right there...

Any idea how I find out what configuration it would take to get to the 10,800 lb GVWR which allows me 3800 payload or even better yet 11,300 GVWR and 4270 payload? That's the confusing part it seems.
Cheers
I don't think you'll ever find the 10,800 GVWR that actually has 3800lbs payload. Maybe a stripped down fleet version with vinyl seats, etc but it will be a hard find since no dealer would order something like that to showcase on their lot. I would think very few buyers would be looking for that config. My 10,800 XLT is fairly basic with only a few options (center console, power drivers seat, snow plow prep are about it) and I'm at 3633 payload.

Ford makes this all really confusing with all of the GVWR packages. I really can't tell what the difference is between a 10,800 and 11,400 GVWR F350 in these years. Some say its just a registration thing and others say its a combination of various other things.
 
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Ok, SDcrewzer...haven't seen this document before..Thanks..I will scan through. Cheers
 
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Originally Posted by Watsy
Ready to roll its ~13,000 lbs
I am finding lots of info on the newer diesel engines and tranny's (all brands) that are saying with the high torque specs and tranny gearing that the 3:55 is the new 3:73 and possibly the new 4:10.
13k is light for these trucks and I don't have a heavy foot off the line or need to be at the top of the hill doing 110 km/hr so 3:55 will be better for my daily drive to work (100 km round trip) and will pull fine as well.
Hope that explains our situation ok.
We are running about 3400 lbs payload at this time (pin weight, hitch, odds and ends in box) so looking for a truck that offers a bit more margin of comfort. I don't like running right to the pin and thought we might get away with a F350 SRW with some creature comforts.
So with the first couple replies I had on my post it doesn't look like the SRW will be possible..
I am open to conversation otherwise.. Cheers
I was close to the same as you when I began pulling my 5er below with my F250. The engine and tranny and the 3:73's can pull it just fine. The issue was the suspension holding it. Airbags and new shocks made it work ok but legally I was in the gray area enough that I got plenty of nastygrams from the internet weight police wannabes.
I'm guessing you want the 3:55's for mpg help but the 4:10's really go well with towing that heavy.
I had the chance to sell my F250 to my son-in-law and get the F350 dually. With the better and more stable ride and piece of mind I am glad I did.
 
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I was close to the same as you when I began pulling my 5er below with my F250. The engine and tranny and the 3:73's can pull it just fine. The issue was the suspension holding it. Airbags and new shocks made it work ok but legally I was in the gray area enough that I got plenty of nastygrams from the internet weight police wannabes.
I'm guessing you want the 3:55's for mpg help but the 4:10's really go well with towing that heavy.
I had the chance to sell my F250 to my son-in-law and get the F350 dually. With the better and more stable ride and piece of mind I am glad I did.
Alrighty then...after seeing that I was dreaming to get to those payload numbers we pulled the trigger on a beauty of a 2015 King Ranch F350 Dually Saturday. Thanks for all the input folks. looks like we will be Super Duty Forum fans for a long time to come. Cheers all.


 
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Alrighty then...after seeing that I was dreaming to get to those payload numbers we pulled the trigger on a beauty of a 2015 King Ranch F350 Dually Saturday. Thanks for all the input folks. looks like we will be Super Duty Forum fans for a long time to come. Cheers all.


Nice looking truck! Good decision on upsizing the truck.
 


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