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Old 02-20-2019, 01:51 PM
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I had originally ordered a 17 Lariat with the ultimate package. After looking further I could get a Platinum for only 900 bucks more. That got me the power running boards, LED headlights, massaging seats (fantastic on long hauls across country), nicer interior with dark headliner, different exterior trim etc. I like my factory mats and spray on bed liner, I don't throw heavy things in there and I purchased a factory rubber matt for over top to help protect and not have things slide around etc. VERY happy with it. The heated rear seats are nice when you bring other people (adults) and it's cold out, I also thought they were standard on the Lariat? I ordered the FX4 and then saw the shock reviews etc. I would think about adding the skid plates, not for off roading but even protection from thieves punching the fuel tank to steal fuel. I personally regret not getting the camper and 5th wheel prep. Not that I have either (I have a bumper pull) but I might need it later has come into my head! lol

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Old 02-20-2019, 03:02 PM
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So I will chime in, as I have owned my truck a 2017 Lariat Ultimate CC LB for two years now.....

Yes, the very nature of these options is due to the fact that we all value these features a bit differently than one another. It makes it a personal decision, but I'll still ask for opinions. I'm about ready to order for an early-May delivery. Numbered for ease of discussion, not out of any priority (or other reason):
  1. F-350 Lariat 4WD Crew Cab Short Bed, 6.7 Diesel. Non-negotiable. Not worth discussing. None of these things are changing. MH: Perfect, short box, gives you the small fuel tank though.
  2. 2-tone Ruby Red with Magnetic (Stone Grey). Also non-negotiable. MH: I really like this color combo, I have had Ruby Red before, it was nice, over silver ingot though.
  3. 3.55 locking rear axle. I don't see myself ever using the locking axle, especially due to the ~20 mph speed rating. But, I can't say no to that option and like the option if I ever need it. I prefer the 3.55 over the 3.31, particularly if I get larger tires in the future.. MH: Agreed, I have the 2.55 as well. I use my locker a lot instead of $ wheel drive sometimes, super handy.
  4. 18" wheels. I don't like 20" wheels and would opt for 18" even if 20" were free. Many more options for tires in 18". MH 18s for me too.
  5. Lariat Ultimate. Virtually everything in this package is something I value. I keep trucks for 15 years. MH: agreed, but below, 8-10 years, you need to add 5th wheel and gooseneck prep and in box wiring. If adding Tow Tech bundle as well, do it all now, trust me, not many dealers will do the 5th wheel prep, its cumbersome.
  6. Tow Technology. This is an expensive package and it will bother me to see this cut in half the next couple of years. But, I do intent to tow a camping trailer with this and want this included. MH I like this, get the 360 cameras and the high mount fifth wheel camera as well, for 5th wheel prep from teh start.
  7. Snow Plow/Camper Package. This one is controversial. I'm never putting on a plow, I'm not putting on a heavy bumper/winch, and I'm not sliding in a camper. I have to at least do the HD front springs for the 3.55 + 18" wheel combo. The Camper package is an extra $35 that adds the rear sway bar. So, I'd at least get the Camper package. The Snow Plow, in theory,upgrades the alternator ... but that gets added later with the supplemental heat. (According to the order guide, the diesel starts at single 220 A, then goes to dual @ 332 with upfitter, then goes to dual @ 377 with Rapid Heat) So, for another $70, the snow plow cranks the springs from 5,600 to 5,990 lbs. I want the added support for the monolithic diesel engine. I have also seen pics where this causes the front to ride about 1-2" higher than the standard 5,200 lb springs. Not the same a level kit ... but a sort of factory level kit. Yes, it may ride rougher, but I couldn't tell in the test drives I went on. I have FX4 and Camper Package F350 gives you solid front end, rear antisway bar, camper cert. Get the Dual High end alternators and the supplemental heat. The diesel is far slower than a gasser to heat up and it helps.
  8. Tough Bed Spray-In Liner. I've watched the YouTube videos that show that it's not as good as Line-X/Rhino. But, it's cheaper and it's just done. Easy. I had mine line-Xd by the dealer, becase its supposed to be better and mine didnt have it.
  9. Blind Spot (BLIS). I have this in my wife's Subaru (Eye-Sight) and I think it's great. With a big truck, I couldn't not order this. MH its useful especially in tight parking lots. Backing out of the driveway.
  10. Engine Block Heater. Probably a feature that I'll never use, but it costs $90. My truck is garaged in an insulated garage. In Colorado, it really only gets to 0 to -10F on the coldest nights where I live ... maybe a bit colder, but not lower than -20 F. And, the garage stays warmer, of course. But, still, makes the truck more complete at a low price. MH: NEver be without this, its good backup, and its cheap, and should be on your vehcile for your state.
  11. Clearance lights. Non-negotiable. I'm old school. Love the lights. MH Love them, wish I had them,.
  12. Quad Beam LED Headlamps. Like with the Tow Technology, this is a really expensive option that I'd expect to plummet in price in the coming 2 years. They are just way too cool and useful a feature to leave out. MH Love them, best lighting a truck can have IMO.
  13. Mud Flaps. I want these and the entire set of 4 is only about $110. That's a good deal for installed mudflaps. MH: I needed these and love them.
  14. 6" Chrome Extended Running Boards. I have tried out all 3 variations: 6" standard, 6" extended, and the powered ones. By far, I prefer the extended. MH Extended are way to go, why not go long box then too.
  15. LT275/70R18 A/T BSW. I intend to keep my stock tires until they wear out, so an A/S tire is a non-starter. I don't like OWL tires ... get too dirty and look crappy. Plus Bleche-White changed its formulation a few years ago and it just doesn't work as well anymore. No OWL. MH 275/70R18 Black wall for me too. I got the GY Kevlars.
  16. Adaptive Cruise Control. Same story about my wife's Subaru. Complete game-changer for me; I wouldn't order a new vehicle without this. MH Wish I had this.
  17. All-Weather Floor Mats. Yep, not as good as Husky/WeatherTech. About half-price, though. That makes them a good value and good enough. MH I have the Ford, they are fine.
  18. Rapid-Heat Supplemental Heater. I'm in CO, so this is a mandatory option. It used to be standard (meaning, it was simply included with the base price). Ford still calls this "standard" in its ordering guide, but it's not. It's not included in the base price like all of the other "standard" items. Rather, it's a $250 option that is mandatory to add. But, doing this also forces the 67B Dual Alternators at 377 Amps. You want the dial high output and supplemental heat.
  19. HomeLink Garage Door Opener. Absolutely shameful that this isn't included in a Lariat Ultimate build. I use my garage door openers in my vehicles, so I got to eat the $120. My Lariat Ultimate has this.
  20. Upfitter Switches. No-brainer. MH Agreed, no brainer
MSRP: $75,330
X-Plan: $71,030
Quote: $70,000 (OTD before govt)

Here's what I'm not doing:
  1. Moonroof. Super common. I hate them. I don't use them and they break. I'm 3:3 on Ford truck platforms that have had moonroofs that have failed in some capacity. Yes, it's an incredibly, microscopically small sample size. But, you couldn't give me a moonroof. It's also heavy and expensive. MH I have and love now.
  2. Rear heated seat. Have these in the wife's car and the kids surprisingly rarely use the feature. My kids and passemgers love these.
  3. FX4. I don't want the skid plates, am ambivalent about the sticker, and can add hill descent later with FORSCAN if I so choose. The "upgraded shocks" are humorous ... or sad ... or both. MH Sure
  4. Chrome. I went back and forth on this. The net difference is about $750 based on how I built it out (you get a running board credit with the chrome). You get the extended running boards for half price, chrome wheels, chrome door handles, chrome mirror caps, chrome tow hoooks, chrome bed tie-downs (only if you do NOT get the spray-in liner), and chrome exhaust tip. I like the door handles and exhaust tip. I'm ambivalent about the mirror and tow hooks. I don't like the wheels as much as standard. So, not enough value. Plus, my 2006 Explorer had factory chrome wheels that pitted within about 4 years. My buddy's 2014 F150 had factory chrome rims that pitted in less than 2 years. So, I'm bearish about chrome. I have all Chrome, as painted bumpers dont do well here.
  5. 5th Wheel Prep. I don't have any plans for a 5er in the next 5-10 years, but I bet the F350 eventually sees one. I'll cross that bridge later. For the next decade it would just be expensive and heavy. MH: Far easier to add now, but you can add the rails in bed and under bed but it will cost you $1500 to do it 10 years later easy.
 
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 67L48 View Post
ĒI appreciate everyone's opinion, but I'll stop you at the point where you begin to tell me what I know. You should probably allow for the reality that different people can read long threads and come away with different conclusions than yours; don't presume to know what I "know."

ďAnd, for the last time, the stiffer suspension doesn't force the addition of the 3.55. It's the converse: 3.55 + 18" wheels force the stiffer springs.Ē

ďI've also read countless threads here and elsewhere about the differences between the 5200, 5600, and 5990 lb spring rates. To me, the discussions are inconclusive, at best.Ē
i love people who presumably ask others for their opinions then downgrade said opinions! Like I said, itís your money and your butt, do whatever you want. Youíre a peach! 😂😂😂
 
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bombero View Post
i love people who presumably ask others for their opinions then downgrade said opinions! Like I said, itís your money and your butt, do whatever you want. Youíre a peach! 😂😂😂
Reading isn't your thing, is it? As I said, I love the opinions. Yours wasn't an opinion ... you simply were telling me what I know ... somehow. Cheers.
 
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 67L48 View Post
Reading isn't your thing, is it? As I said, I love the opinions. Yours wasn't an opinion ... you simply were telling me what I know ... somehow. Cheers.
Haha, like I said, youíre a peach! Good luck with your purchase. It should be seamless since you have all the answers.
 
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Old 02-21-2019, 02:05 AM
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Pardon my english , i'll try to chime in here :

Pretty good build , for me the best ''option'' was the carpet delete. Would never own another truck with carpet.

Led lights are great and I love em' BUT when I returned from Florida to quebec last year , I hit a massive snow storm for more than 1200 miles. Those leds don't produce heat at all and I can tell you that it was HELL. I had to stop every 10-15 mins to clears thoses lights. I had an emergency so coudn't stop. I was some wet sticky snow and I know its a specific situation but i can happen and when it does it sucks. As for BLISS , i don't like it. The light is too small and should have been located closer to the driver. In winter time the mirrors becomes dirty and you can't see the light anymore , rendering it useless , the only time it would have been useful for me. I drove my moms subaru and I loved it because it was WAY more visible being located in the interior support for the mirror. . I have it because it came with the led package.

The prep package , just do it , it looks way better than rails , functions better and everybody wants them ( resale)

Moonroof : Yeah , mine just exploded on my 2016 and was a 2,5k repair bill. New one will cost 5k ? enough said.
 
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Old 03-01-2019, 08:37 AM
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then i think you know what you want. You wonít regret all the led and technology stuff. It will hold its value. Because every time a car manufacturer comes out with new technology they charge a lot more then what you paid for the previous technology. The led lights at night are a godsend . I got the mud flaps - thought thatís was a great deal. Got roof lights , love them . I think they did a great job on the OEM spray in Bed liner

only thing i wasnt wasnít a great fan of was the floor mats . I got the all weather mats- if I did it again I would just order the weathertech or huskys while your waiting for your build.

On the all weather mats, can you explain what you did not like about them?

Also, if you get the all weather mats in a Lariat, does it delete all the carpet in side the truck? In other words, do you have all vinyl floors?
 
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I too got the all weather mats and my argument is they seem too small and donít really hold all that much debris.

I will Iíll get the huskys soon I think

In the lariat the carpet stays. This is just all weather rubber mats that go on top of the carpet
 
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I read this complete thread. Everyone has their own opinion.
so I guess I'm not going to tell you about my 1973 F100 with all Jaguar xjs independent suspension front& rear. It did come with 3:31 gears. I changed it out to 3:55. Burns those 305x35x20 tires easier. Rim's 20x12. All air-ride suspension. So its Smoooooth
Enjoy your trucks kids... 😋

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Yes, the very nature of these options is due to the fact that we all value these features a bit differently than one another. It makes it a personal decision, but I'll still ask for opinions. I'm about ready to order for an early-May delivery. Numbered for ease of discussion, not out of any priority (or other reason):
  1. F-350 Lariat 4WD Crew Cab Short Bed, 6.7 Diesel. Non-negotiable. Not worth discussing. None of these things are changing.
  2. 2-tone Ruby Red with Magnetic (Stone Grey). Also non-negotiable.
  3. 3.55 locking rear axle. I don't see myself ever using the locking axle, especially due to the ~20 mph speed rating. But, I can't say no to that option and like the option if I ever need it. I prefer the 3.55 over the 3.31, particularly if I get larger tires in the future..
  4. 18" wheels. I don't like 20" wheels and would opt for 18" even if 20" were free. Many more options for tires in 18".
  5. Lariat Ultimate. Virtually everything in this package is something I value. I keep trucks for 15 years.
  6. Tow Technology. This is an expensive package and it will bother me to see this cut in half the next couple of years. But, I do intent to tow a camping trailer with this and want this included.
  7. Snow Plow/Camper Package. This one is controversial. I'm never putting on a plow, I'm not putting on a heavy bumper/winch, and I'm not sliding in a camper. I have to at least do the HD front springs for the 3.55 + 18" wheel combo. The Camper package is an extra $35 that adds the rear sway bar. So, I'd at least get the Camper package. The Snow Plow, in theory,upgrades the alternator ... but that gets added later with the supplemental heat. (According to the order guide, the diesel starts at single 220 A, then goes to dual @ 332 with upfitter, then goes to dual @ 377 with Rapid Heat) So, for another $70, the snow plow cranks the springs from 5,600 to 5,990 lbs. I want the added support for the monolithic diesel engine. I have also seen pics where this causes the front to ride about 1-2" higher than the standard 5,200 lb springs. Not the same a level kit ... but a sort of factory level kit. Yes, it may ride rougher, but I couldn't tell in the test drives I went on.
  8. Tough Bed Spray-In Liner. I've watched the YouTube videos that show that it's not as good as Line-X/Rhino. But, it's cheaper and it's just done. Easy.
  9. Blind Spot (BLIS). I have this in my wife's Subaru (Eye-Sight) and I think it's great. With a big truck, I couldn't not order this.
  10. Engine Block Heater. Probably a feature that I'll never use, but it costs $90. My truck is garaged in an insulated garage. In Colorado, it really only gets to 0 to -10F on the coldest nights where I live ... maybe a bit colder, but not lower than -20 F. And, the garage stays warmer, of course. But, still, makes the truck more complete at a low price.
  11. Clearance lights. Non-negotiable. I'm old school. Love the lights.
  12. Quad Beam LED Headlamps. Like with the Tow Technology, this is a really expensive option that I'd expect to plummet in price in the coming 2 years. They are just way too cool and useful a feature to leave out.
  13. Mud Flaps. I want these and the entire set of 4 is only about $110. That's a good deal for installed mudflaps.
  14. 6" Chrome Extended Running Boards. I have tried out all 3 variations: 6" standard, 6" extended, and the powered ones. By far, I prefer the extended.
  15. LT275/70R18 A/T BSW. I intend to keep my stock tires until they wear out, so an A/S tire is a non-starter. I don't like OWL tires ... get too dirty and look crappy. Plus Bleche-White changed its formulation a few years ago and it just doesn't work as well anymore. No OWL.
  16. Adaptive Cruise Control. Same story about my wife's Subaru. Complete game-changer for me; I wouldn't order a new vehicle without this.
  17. All-Weather Floor Mats. Yep, not as good as Husky/WeatherTech. About half-price, though. That makes them a good value and good enough.
  18. Rapid-Heat Supplemental Heater. I'm in CO, so this is a mandatory option. It used to be standard (meaning, it was simply included with the base price). Ford still calls this "standard" in its ordering guide, but it's not. It's not included in the base price like all of the other "standard" items. Rather, it's a $250 option that is mandatory to add. But, doing this also forces the 67B Dual Alternators at 377 Amps.
  19. HomeLink Garage Door Opener. Absolutely shameful that this isn't included in a Lariat Ultimate build. I use my garage door openers in my vehicles, so I got to eat the $120.
  20. Upfitter Switches. No-brainer.
MSRP: $75,330
X-Plan: $71,030
Quote: $70,000 (OTD before govt)

Here's what I'm not doing:
  1. Moonroof. Super common. I hate them. I don't use them and they break. I'm 3:3 on Ford truck platforms that have had moonroofs that have failed in some capacity. Yes, it's an incredibly, microscopically small sample size. But, you couldn't give me a moonroof. It's also heavy and expensive.
  2. Rear heated seat. Have these in the wife's car and the kids surprisingly rarely use the feature.
  3. FX4. I don't want the skid plates, am ambivalent about the sticker, and can add hill descent later with FORSCAN if I so choose. The "upgraded shocks" are humorous ... or sad ... or both.
  4. Chrome. I went back and forth on this. The net difference is about $750 based on how I built it out (you get a running board credit with the chrome). You get the extended running boards for half price, chrome wheels, chrome door handles, chrome mirror caps, chrome tow hoooks, chrome bed tie-downs (only if you do NOT get the spray-in liner), and chrome exhaust tip. I like the door handles and exhaust tip. I'm ambivalent about the mirror and tow hooks. I don't like the wheels as much as standard. So, not enough value. Plus, my 2006 Explorer had factory chrome wheels that pitted within about 4 years. My buddy's 2014 F150 had factory chrome rims that pitted in less than 2 years. So, I'm bearish about chrome.
  5. 5th Wheel Prep. I don't have any plans for a 5er in the next 5-10 years, but I bet the F350 eventually sees one. I'll cross that bridge later. For the next decade it would just be expensive and heavy.

Thoughts? Did I miss something? Am I thinking poorly about one of these features/options?

Thanks.
This is a great build... In fact I just picked mine up on this last Monday. I did the same thing and ordered it so I would have everything I want on it....
 
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I've often wondered why those who order ESOF don't also get the Automatic Hubs. I see most window stickers with manual locking hubs instead.
 
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:53 PM
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I've often wondered why those who order ESOF don't also get the Automatic Hubs. I see most window stickers with manual locking hubs instead.
I love technology, I love shift-on-the-fly, especially in nasty weather. But I really love having the ability of manually locking the hubs in case something goes haywire.

I said I love technology, but I don’t necessarily trust it!


 
 


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