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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 11:36 AM
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Door panel retainers

I was going to start replacing my weatherstripping tonight on both doors and was wondering if anyone knew which retainers behind the panels my 77 F250 would have, plastic or metal ?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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If they are still stock, it will be the metal ones.
 
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If they are still stock, it will be the metal ones.
Yes all stock, thank you.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 09:41 AM
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X2 on if the door panel has never been off then you should have metal ones. Get/rent/make a door panel removal tool, other wise you run the risk destroying the inside part of the door panel that they connect to. Especially if you just try to "pull carefully", the inside part of the door panel will break, then then its repair time.The metal retainers are a PITA. The Xmas trees for the GM ones have a bigger head and longer body.









 
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 12:10 PM
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Ooooo. Excellent info on the plastic panel clips. Many thanks Rich!

Saving those pictures to my "upgrade" folder for future use.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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gonna play contrarian... the plastic clips are only at their best at one insertion and are a pain to get out. If your panels are original and complete, you will find that over a few removals the metal clips hold up better and can be bent to look like new if they loosen up.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 02:08 PM
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Mine were the metal ones. Looked like the panel had been off before because a few were missing. Even with the tool I bought and as careful as I was I still managed to break 2 more so I’m going to have to figure out how to patch/fix them. Can a man still purchase the metal ones ?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by '77F250C
Mine were the metal ones. Looked like the panel had been off before because a few were missing. Even with the tool I bought and as careful as I was I still managed to break 2 more so I’m going to have to figure out how to patch/fix them. Can a man still purchase the metal ones ?

There are TWO different types of clips. Upper pic uses the same "xmas tree" clip (383033-S) as 1978/79 Bronco.










 
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Originally Posted by '77F250C
Mine were the metal ones. Looked like the panel had been off before because a few were missing. Even with the tool I bought and as careful as I was I still managed to break 2 more so I’m going to have to figure out how to patch/fix them. Can a man still purchase the metal ones ?
Yes, the metal l ones can still be purchased. They are the same clips also used in various years for Mustang and Bronco door panels so you can check places like NPD for stock. The NPD link I posted has a set of 6 for $2.00 or you can purchase them individually at NPD or LMC. I'm sure many other places carry them as well.

 
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Again gentlemen thanks for all the info !
 
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Yes, the metal l ones can still be purchased. They are the same clips also used in various years for Mustang and Bronco door panels so you can check places like NPD for stock. The NPD link I posted has a set of 6 for $2.00 or you can purchase them individually at NPD or LMC. I'm sure many other places carry them as well.
I'd be willing to bet that NPD and etc are buying them from AuVeCo

 
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https://www.auveco.com/trim-fasteners

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will look for a supplier here local

to Wichita, KS and try the wire one out for my 74 and 75...
 

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Originally Posted by HoustonDave
gonna play contrarian... the plastic clips are only at their best at one insertion and are a pain to get out.
I agree with that but... after having the OEM metal one cause a breakage like what has happened to other people I just decided to use the push in plastic ones. And when I needed to remove my door panel to repair speakers, lube a window track, replace a regulator, replace the anti rattle strips, ect..I just use a hack saw blade with some tape for a handle. Put some blue painter tape to protect the door paint and simply slip in between the panel and the door and cut the cheap trees off. No fingers crossed pulling, tugging or breaking of the back side clip mount area.
 
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I just saw a youtube video where a guy took 2 putty knives and got his wire spring clips to come out of the holes without breaking the door panel slot.
I thought about trying that method because I want to keep my original door panels.


IS there a better way to get these jokers out or is it just a crap shoot?

I KNOW my clips are going to have a lot of rust and that is on top of the fact that they aren't easy to get out ANYWAY.

Mike
 
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Harbor Freight has a set of cheap door panel removal tools, check them out. I have removed enough old door panels but I still use use the tool ESPECIALLY if it is a XLT Lariat vinyl overlay, Free Wheeling or a stainless steel trim door panel. But if I forgot the tool (shop trolls are notorious for not putting tools back in the JY back pack tool bag) and I see the plastic xmas trees, then just bust out the ol hack saw blade.

For the metal ones to be safe better use the door panel removal assistance tool. The one that has a V on the end to squeeze the 2 pieces of the metal clip together to get it to release. And I always start on a bottom fwd or back corner, then do the middle bottom, then up to the middle of the panel, front then back and so on up.
 
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