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Old 02-15-2019, 04:42 PM
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2005 Excursion: water in cup holders in center console

To my horror today I noticed water in
the center consoleís cup holders in my
2005 Excursion Eddie Bauer edition v10.
Nothing else appeared wet nearby, just
very slightly damp, as of water had been
there before.

Havenít driven the car in a week.
See the picture I uploaded.

Is this a known problem and how could
it have happened? Never happened
before. Any repair ideas? Donít want it
to happen again. Thanks in advance.

(Ignore the plastic on the floor.
Thatís there from when the dealer
sold me the truck.)



 
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:02 PM
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It could only cone from above, like a sun roof, but it that were the case, itís odd it would drip only into the two cup holders and not be wet anywhere else.

Anyone else use the truck that could have put water in them? Maybe to clean them out (let them soak to soften up any gunk )?
 
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:07 PM
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There’s no sunroof;
nobody else entered the vehicle recently.
 
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:18 PM
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Has it been sitting outside where it would have been in the rain, or is it in the garage?

Could maybe leave some newspaper or large tiwel unfolded over the whole area/console for a few days and see if more wet spots appear there or in other areas

is the ceiling panel wet or stained?

 
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:22 PM
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Ceiling panel looks fine. Vehicle has been kept outside.
 
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:02 PM
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I've seen this before. Your windshield sealant has failed and is leaking at the top center of the windshield. This is going to mean RUST when you pull the windshield off. DO NOT go to a glass company, as they will pull the windshield and then tell you they cannot put a new one on until you fix the rust. Take it straight to a body shop that can mitigate the rust that you will find under there.

The water is being directed to the cupholders by the overhead console.
 
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Old 02-15-2019, 10:17 PM
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wouldnt you know it the evil rust strikes again! proably wouldnt even take much of a hole in windshield flange to make that little bit of water in a light rain.
 
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Old 02-16-2019, 03:08 AM
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Maybe a temporary fix is some clear latex caulk along the top outside windshield trim edges
 
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:09 PM
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I detached the console and took some pictures.
I donít see any rust up there.
Am I in the clear or do I need to look for it elsewhere?
I donít even see anything that could have been wet.
Would merely sealing the windshield solve this?
And how can I be sure thatís where the leak is from?





 
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:38 PM
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I am almost sure that either someone kept a cold beverage in there or spilled water in there and did not inform you
 
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Old 02-18-2019, 01:39 PM
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Until you figure out where the water came from, youíre not in the clear.

Looks like youíre in the south based on the trees in the back ground. Take a hose and soak the top and windshield and then look in the car for dripping. Maybe first lay some open newspaper all across the front seat so you can hear and see any dripping better.
 
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:05 PM
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What Seville said.

For water to end up in the cup holders (and no one else has been in there but you), it has to come from the overhead console. A couple years ago, someone had this same exact scenario, and it was his windshield pinch weld that had rusted through and was routing the water into the console and then to the cupholders/carpet. You could lay out the newspaper, or you can pull the headliner down to see the pinch weld. Easier to do the newspaper...
 
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I can agree with Nicmike's comments a 100% from personal expeirence of this happening on my first Expedition.

the windshield had a bad seal and it is leaking through the overhead console, I watched it drip on a rainy day, and pulled the console to get a look while it was doing it.

when I pulled the rubber off the windshield I only had a couple spots with minimal surface rust. So I cleaned them up and painted, then saw a hack on youtube about leaky windshields. You get the windshield sealer they sell at the parts stores, a very liquid one like water not gel/caulk, use q tube or two around the whole windshield.

the more watery stuff hopefully seeps into your failed seal and reseals it. Then use the more gel/caulk like windshield sealer to make sure the rubber seal is securely sealed.

Worked for me on the Expedition, about an hour of my time and $20 and I never had the problem again.
 
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:35 AM
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geez what a bad design, i thought the urethane is what sealed these windshields in, not the rubber trim
 
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Old 02-20-2019, 09:11 AM
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It is the urethane, but if the paint under the urethane isn't great moisture gets under it, deteriorates the metal, and you start to get leaks. You can then try to seal the rubber trim to keep the water from getting to the urethane but it's not a permanent fix. Really you need the window removed at a body shop and have that entire interface cleaned up, primed and painted with a quality job to fix it right.
 

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