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A Recovering Chevy Guys 1977 F150 460 Project

Just sold my 82 C10 going to a good home in San Antonio and last night I decided to see what all the Ford guys are talking about. Picked up a 1977 F150 Ranger XLT automatic with a factory big block for $1000. Supposedly ran and drove to the spot it sat but I towed it home.

Some issues ive noticed off the bat in the few hours Ive had her seems to be shes missing her ignition module, starter solenoid, water pump, the brake pedal does nothing/pushes down to the floor, the gas pedal is stuck to the floor, aftermarket passenger side ventilation, and a major one thats been scaring me is she rolls in park-I hope thats not a transmission issue.

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Thanks in advance for the patience on a first time ford guy as I go through this project. Happy to join the forums!​​​​​​​
 
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Got 2 carbs and spacers included, one is rebuilt and I believe that is the one that came off the engine. These things are massive and way beefier than the quadrajet im used to.

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Old 02-10-2019, 06:01 PM
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Looks like a solid truck!

Wonder why the ignition module is gone, starter relay? Water pump I could kinda get. Pulled it out as it was bad and didn’t get around to putting a new one in. Brakes bad from sitting? That makes sense.

Guy must of pirated the electrical parts for another truck.

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Old 02-10-2019, 06:03 PM
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Just sold my 82 C10 going to a good home in San Antonio and last night I decided to see what all the Ford guys are talking about. Picked up a 1977 F150 Ranger XLT automatic with a factory big block for $1000. Supposedly ran and drove to the spot it sat but I towed it home.

Some issues ive noticed off the bat in the few hours Ive had her seems to be shes missing her ignition module, starter solenoid, water pump, the brake pedal does nothing/pushes down to the floor, the gas pedal is stuck to the floor, aftermarket passenger side ventilation, and a major one thats been scaring me is she rolls in park-I hope thats not a transmission issue.

https://imgur.com/a/8x4lkEo


Thanks in advance for the patience on a first time ford guy as I go through this project. Happy to join the forums!​​​​​​​
How the heck can people neglect their vehicles that much. Just sad.
 
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:08 PM
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It looks like someone may have changed out the ignition system. And some of it looks like it got pilfered while sitting.
 
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:24 PM
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Solid looking truck! Scoring that 460 is gold. Is she a short bed?
 
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1977 Ranger XLT 460 4V with optional factory installed Speed Control and integral A/C

The distributor cap is from a 1976 and earlier vehicle. 1977 and later cap has male ends and clips onto to a lower plastic adapter.

Take the cap off, look inside to see if it has points and condenser. If it does, the distributor is from a 1974/75 without electronic ignition or possibly a 1968/73 429/460 car, 1973 F100/350 460.

DuraSpark electronic ignition was introduced in 1974, but not all FoMoCo vehicles came with it until 1976.

The ball shaped device on the left fender inner apron is the vacuum reservoir for the A/C ..The ignition module was located behind it, you can see the holes where it bolted on.
 
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Congratulations, your truck came with the biggest turd of a carburetor that Ford ever installed.....at least that's what I've read! No, seriously, you have the spread bore manifold so I assume you have Motorcraft 4350 that came on the truck. I spent a LOT of money to rebuild mine. Just the new floats alone were over $60. I ended up spending over $100 total to rebuild it. DO NOT DO THIS! Find you a cheap 4 barrel somewhere if you have to, that 4350 is not worth your time, money and effort. Unless you can find a Ford spacer plate with the built in EGR to block off that spot on the left side of the manifold, there's only one spacer out there that covers it. You can find it on Jegs website, I just purchased one after I bought the Holley I got. But you will definitely be better off going to another 4 barrel other than the one that came on it. I tried for an entire year to tune that 4350. I got it to run "okay" but no matter what I did it was never "great". I made several videos on my trials and tribulations with that carburetor, if you do a search on YouTube you'll see a lot of them.

I also agree with NumberDummy....you may have an earlier 460 than what came in the truck. The distributor is definitely different from what I have in my 77. Good luck, there is a lot of help in here.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
1977 Ranger XLT 460 4V with optional factory installed Speed Control and integral A/C

The distributor cap is from a 1976 and earlier vehicle. 1977 and later cap has male ends and clips onto to a lower plastic adapter.

Take the cap off, look inside to see if it has points and condenser. If it does, the distributor is from a 1974/75 without electronic ignition or possibly a 1968/73 429/460 car, 1973 F100/350 460.

DuraSpark electronic ignition was introduced in 1974, but not all FoMoCo vehicles came with it until 1976.

The ball shaped device on the left fender inner apron is the vacuum reservoir for the A/C ..The ignition module was located behind it, you can see the holes where it bolted on.
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I also agree with NumberDummy....you may have an earlier 460 than what came in the truck. The distributor is definitely different from what I have in my 77. Good luck, there is a lot of help in here.
You guys have good eyes, the actual factory big block that came with the truck is the one I photographed sitting in the bed haha, supposedly blew up and its been swapped with another. (speaking of which if anyone is looking for a block) I dont know the history of whats been done as the guy was a motorcycle guy and couldn't tell me the exact details. ill check the distributor in the morning.
 
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A look inside the distributor, ordered a new water pump, starter solenoid, ignition module, and various gaskets today well see how it goes!
 
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My 76 with an FE had that same distributor cap on it, with the duraspark module. I think it was just done for that one particular year. But that's definitely a DuraSpark pick up coil under there.
 
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V8 dizzy cap with or without DuraSpark: 1974 = B7A-12106-A (Motorcraft DH-6). This cap is black // 1975/76: D5AZ-12106-A (Motorcraft DH-354). This cap is blue.

V8 dizzy cap with DuraSpark: 1977/79 = D7AZ-12106-A (Motorcraft DH-366). This cap has male ends and clips to a plastic adapter: D7VY-12A217-A (Motorcraft DJ-2).
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D4PZ-12A112-A .. Stator aka magnetic pickup coil (Motorcraft DU-1A).

1974/79 all FoMoCo V8's except 1979 LTD/Grand Marquis 351W with EEC (Electronic Engine Control system = on board computer).

btw: The red dizzy cap is an aftermarket auto parts store replacement.
 
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:48 PM
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Got a few parts in lately, I realized my water pump is missing the backing plate and screws so have to get that ordered quickly. A lot of cut and missing hoses that need to be replaced. Got the starter solenoid and ignition module in today, been busy with last year of school not too much time as well as waiting for shipping. The connection to my battery on the solenoid is loaded with connectors but I believe they are wired correctly.

Also it looks like I am missing a part of my wiring harness that connects the distributor to my module, If anyone has a picture of this part please let me know-I've been looking at google 1977 ford engine bays for the past hour or so seeing if I can spot it.

Another thing, what are the 2 grey connectors at the top near the firewall? I've been thinking of splurging one of the wiring CDs on ebay to sort the inevitable problems that may come up. Thanks in advance for the help guys.


 
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Pics of my 460 with duraspark



 

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