1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis Econolines. E150, E250, E350, E450 and E550

1987 - Ford Econoline E350 Club Van - Starting Issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-28-2019, 11:42 PM
Roberttheblob's Avatar
Roberttheblob
Roberttheblob is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Talking 1987 - Ford Econoline E350 Club Van - Starting Issues

Hey there,

My 1987 Ford Econoline E350 Club Van (7.5L V8) is having issues starting cold.
  • If starting cold, 80% of the time I will have to hit the gas pedal to get it to start.
  • If I don't hold the gas pedal at least slightly down, it will sputter out and die.
  • I have the pedal down for like 60 seconds then it's usually good.
  • Usually, each starting attempt after the 1st seems to get better.
  • I can always get the car started and going using this method: takes between 1-3 tries.
  • If i have to reverse after a cold start, sometimes it will sputter out.
  • It always runs fine once I'm in drive and on the road, but it has a high idle.
  • It also starts up nicely once it's warmed up, 100% of the time.
Would appreciate any advice.

I was looking at Jamie Clay's recent thread: "7.5L EFI running rich, rough idle - 173 code." and thought I might follow what he did? Just bought some new spark plugs.
 
  #2  
Old 01-29-2019, 07:35 PM
wirelessengineer's Avatar
wirelessengineer
wirelessengineer is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 690
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Well, I don't know much about the 87s, but a few generic questions come to mind:
  • When was the last tune-up?
  • Plugs, points, condenser on that thing? OR is yours more modern than that?
  • Plug wires?
  • Plug color? Should give an idea of the fuel mixture.
  • Throttle body or carb? Cleaned lately?
  • Do you have an IAC? PCV? Have they been checked/cleaned?
 
  #3  
Old 01-30-2019, 05:37 AM
JWA's Avatar
JWA
JWA is online now
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Reynoldsburg, Ohio
Posts: 20,887
Received 1,393 Likes on 1,102 Posts
I'm with Wireless here---your entire ignition and fuel delivery system needs attention. Since this seems to be more a cold weather issue that just reinforces this is a lack of maintenance issue.

New spark plugs might help but that's certainly not the full cure for what you're experiencing.

I'd also visit the sub-forum for your engine and get some ideas what to look for and at, what's needed to assure more consistent starting during the cold.
 
  #4  
Old 02-14-2019, 11:19 PM
Roberttheblob's Avatar
Roberttheblob
Roberttheblob is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Talking

Well, I really appreciate the responses guys!

I'm a total n00b to my van and after seeing the responses, I popped the hood and peeped under the air filter, and I do have a carburetor! Hah, the guy i bought the van from was selling it for a friend of his, and didn't know much about the vehicle. And i just started it right up the couple times that I had looked at it. Thought it was fuel injected. As I said, I'm a van n00b and didn't realize how recently carburetors were still being installed in vehicles.

So now, I've been hitting the gas pedal 3-4 times to start, and just giving it some time to warms up and idle and it's been good.

I swapped out the spark plugs and saw it was running rich.

I then had the carb professionally tuned by a shop. Idles much better.
 
  #5  
Old 02-15-2019, 06:55 AM
wirelessengineer's Avatar
wirelessengineer
wirelessengineer is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 690
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
There ya go! Always start with the basics!
 
  #6  
Old 02-23-2019, 09:42 PM
Roberttheblob's Avatar
Roberttheblob
Roberttheblob is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Hey guys, could use your help.

I decided to replace the valve cover gaskets as my mechanic had recommended.
The van smokes a bit of oil sometimes on the passenger side, and my mechanic had suggested a steam cleaning of the engine (to clean up the oil) and new Valve Cover Gaskets.

Anyways, I was taking off the Air Cleaner - and I knocked a small part of the carburetor off. It's a tiny black piece of metal (pic #1) that attaches to one of the rods that controls the Choke mechanism (pic 2 - that rod should be in the hole). After taking the photo - I was trying to place the black piece back on and it wound up breaking : (

Is there anything I can do about this? I'm unsure what the whole mechanism looked like before. Could I fix it temporarily by getting a nut and bolt that fits? Or maybe even a ziptie?

Thanks!





 
  #7  
Old 02-24-2019, 06:49 AM
wirelessengineer's Avatar
wirelessengineer
wirelessengineer is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 690
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
It's better to start a new thread for a new problem. Makes it easier in the future for people searching for answers. You are also more likely to attract the attention of someone who has relevant knowledge.

I'm guessing that clip goes on the other side to hold the rod in place so it doesn't slip out.
 
  #8  
Old 02-25-2019, 11:09 AM
subford's Avatar
subford
subford is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Easton,Ks
Posts: 23,603
Likes: 0
Received 228 Likes on 177 Posts
Quote:
"If starting cold, 80% of the time I will have to hit the gas pedal to get it to start."
That is the normal way to start the engine.
When you hit the gas pedal you release the choke and it goes to the closed position to start the engine.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
kasoe
1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis
5
03-29-2006 04:28 AM
AerostarDad
Aerostar
6
08-09-2005 10:15 AM
Dave the Brewer
Aerostar
4
09-01-2003 06:20 PM
pr
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
03-10-2002 06:57 PM



Quick Reply: 1987 - Ford Econoline E350 Club Van - Starting Issues



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:06 AM.