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Old 01-16-2019, 08:50 PM
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Dodge and Cummins play catchup...

....to the Super Duty and Scorpion motor. Compacted iron block, boxed frame, stronger con-rods, trying like the dickens to catch up to Ford.

Now if only they could make Rams as reliable as Fords. I've met a lot of guys who just had problem after problem with their Ram trucks.

I still wish Ford made a mega-cab truck, the only reason to consider a Dodge imho.

 
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Old 01-16-2019, 09:01 PM
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There's a huge thread on this already, looks like they moved it to general. It devolves all the way into SR-71s, should check it out lol.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1568925-ram-1-000-lbs-torque.html
 
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:30 PM
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Sho nuff, it even devolved into electric trucks. Hope this one stays here and SD-specific. The other focuses on that torque figure from Cummins.
 
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So many limiting nannies set in the computer you can't use all that power. Even on the Ford and Chevy.


But great for guys that will program and don't care about warranty
 
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Originally Posted by RenoHuskerDu View Post

I still wish Ford made a mega-cab truck, the only reason to consider a Dodge imho.
The Ford crew cab is equal to and larger in some aspects for interior room.

Ram MegaCab
INTERIOR
Front head room 41"
Rear head room 40"
Front shoulder room 66"
Rear shoulder room 66"
Front hip room 63"
Rear hip room 63"
Front leg room 41.0"
Rear leg room 43.3"



Ford F-250-550 Crew Cab specs
INTERIOR
Front head room 41"
Rear head room 40"
Front shoulder room 67"
Rear shoulder room 66"
Front hip room 63"
Rear hip room 65"
Front leg room 43.9"
Rear leg room 43.6"
 
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Thanks for those measurements.
I test drove a couple recent used MegaCabs and noticed all kinds of little stuff was broken inside. Seat adjusters, door handles, locks, it did not give me an impression of quality, and there were rattles everywhere. So I bought a Ford 2017 cc (since traded up to a 2018). My teen boys are tall and fit fine in the back. The only advantage we don't have is the tool&rifle space behind the back seats, and reclining back seats. I don't think Ramboxes come on HD trucks, afaik, but that would be nice to have in a Ford.
 
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wish i had crystal ball. wonder if new ram will have chronic death wobble like ford
 
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wish i had crystal ball. wonder if new ram will have chronic death wobble like ford
wont matter....the Fiat won’t run long enough to find out. But you can say “it’s got a cummINGS”.
 
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Originally Posted by willynilly View Post
wish i had crystal ball. wonder if new ram will have chronic death wobble like ford
Just another fine example of the resident trolling FCA fanboy..... I wonder if the new FCA offering will continue with the chronic transmission problems...


 
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Trust me Ford is far from being reliable compared to a Ram. Both trucks are great trucks but one isn't superior than the other especially in the reliability department.
 
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Originally Posted by RenoHuskerDu View Post
....to the Super Duty and Scorpion motor. Compacted iron block, boxed frame, stronger con-rods, trying like the dickens to catch up to Ford.

Now if only they could make Rams as reliable as Fords. I've met a lot of guys who just had problem after problem with their Ram trucks.

I still wish Ford made a mega-cab truck, the only reason to consider a Dodge imho.

https://youtu.be/9x418FgnJOA
Ram has used a boxed frame since 2003. It was Ford who caught up there.

As for problems... every brand will make trucks that aren't up to snuff. My 2005 has just one issue that's annoying, with the AC draining its refrigerant (an unfortunate electronics programming flaw of that generation). Unlike my 96, my 05 has never experienced Death Wobble, and the Cummins in both trucks has been flawless. My two F-150s... I could write a book. But it's a machine from an assembly line and not every truck that rolls out of the factory will be 100%.

The MegaCab is nice if you need the behind-seat storage, but then you are left with a huge C-pillar to block over-the-shoulder vision and the short 6'4" bed. Every cab design is a compromise of something.
 
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Just another fine example of the resident trolling FCA fanboy..... I wonder if the new FCA offering will continue with the chronic transmission problems...
Is there a way to vote him off the island? He's getting repetitive.
 
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker374 View Post
Just another fine example of the resident trolling FCA fanboy..... I wonder if the new FCA offering will continue with the chronic transmission problems...
naw ive had all kinds of vehicles and drive what suits me at the time. far as i know ford never made hd sport package until 2019 and that was a huge mistake imo, since alot of us refuse to have a bunch of chrome. they also dont have a dedicated hd offroad model which is another huge mistake imo. why should i have to spend thousands after the fact for winches, lockers, off road suspension
 
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The reclining seat of the Mega is really nice. The only time I was able to benefit from them was on our yearly snowmobile trip. That being said, I ordered a SD. 51 weeks with the SD was worth more than the 1 week with a Mega. Personally, I never had any complaints with my Dodges/Rams. After already having a 4th gen, I didn't really want to buy another truck that looked the same. The sport package offered by Ford this year was what really helped convert me. Just need the truck to show up now.
 
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog View Post
The Ford crew cab is equal to and larger in some aspects for interior room.

Ram MegaCab
INTERIOR
Front head room 41"
Rear head room 40"
Front shoulder room 66"
Rear shoulder room 66"
Front hip room 63"
Rear hip room 63"
Front leg room 41.0"
Rear leg room 43.3"



Ford F-250-550 Crew Cab specs
INTERIOR
Front head room 41"
Rear head room 40"
Front shoulder room 67"
Rear shoulder room 66"
Front hip room 63"
Rear hip room 65"
Front leg room 43.9"
Rear leg room 43.6"

X2,

I was dead set on buying whatever gave my rear passengers the most leg room and was shocked when I saw this. All good for me because I didnt really want to go from a F150 with zero problems to a Ram HD.


The only benefit I see for the megacab is the rear seats recline a bit. big deal.
 

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