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Old 01-16-2019, 09:01 AM
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In out fleet exp both our 2015 RAM 5500'S Had to have window regulators replaced within months of being new, and both had heater core's within a year( big job) Ford's are more, but the build quailty is higher. IMO.
 
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our intervals are once a year as well. I find the penzoil on amazon and at the end of the day it’s around $80 with a filter which isn’t bad once you do the math.
Yeah it wasn't bad. Works out to be the same as my Ford is now. 6.4 is a good power plant. I couldn't get past the 66rfe. I bet the new generation with 8speed is going to be very nice.
 
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Yes, go with the Ford.

1. Last Dodge I purchased had nothing but problems, during warranty it is still a pain to always be dropping it off and getting a loaner CAR... After warranty, it is expensive.
2. While on paper the RAM 6.4 has more HP and basically same torque, the nanny computer will not actually allow the motor to use it when working hard. The is documented on TFLTruck
3. Don't know if you are looking at 250/2500 or 350/3500 but Ram 2500 has coil springs. I personally don't like the way the carry weight as opposed to traditional leaf springs.

From personal experience, my 6.2 F350 will pull circles around my buddies 6.4 RAM. We pull similar weight trailers, and he tries to find ways around the mountains while the Ford goes right up and over...
 
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I could have saved $5000 using the First Responder discount through Dodge, but i opted to pay the extra money for the Ford. I test drove them back to back. The ram was more comfortable, but the Ford had so much more power and torque. I've had problems with the death wobble, but it was been corrected. I don't regret my purchase.
 
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Yes, go with the Ford.

1. Last Dodge I purchased had nothing but problems, during warranty it is still a pain to always be dropping it off and getting a loaner CAR... After warranty, it is expensive.
2. While on paper the RAM 6.4 has more HP and basically same torque, the nanny computer will not actually allow the motor to use it when working hard. The is documented on TFLTruck
3. Don't know if you are looking at 250/2500 or 350/3500 but Ram 2500 has coil springs. I personally don't like the way the carry weight as opposed to traditional leaf springs.

From personal experience, my 6.2 F350 will pull circles around my buddies 6.4 RAM. We pull similar weight trailers, and he tries to find ways around the mountains while the Ford goes right up and over...

The tfl test is due to the dismal gearing and gear spacing of 66rfe. That test the truck was under a load where it was not enough to need 1st but too much for 2nd gear. So it picks the lowest gear and holds the rpm at 4k. So yeah poor engineering. Ram getting rid of the 66rfe behind the 6.4 will be the best thing they can do.
 
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Despite the similar specs (HP, torque, towing capacity, etc), the Ford will outwork the Ram in real world conditions.
Not that I think TFLtruck is the end-all, be-all of scientific testing (they're not; not at all), but they do put together interesting entertainment videos.
Here, the Ford flat did it's job and pulled the load at the max allowable speed. The Ram de-tuned itself by reducing power. Why? Can't say for sure. Was it too much load for the trans? Engine too hot? Don't know. But the end result was WAY slower than the Ford:
https://www.tfltruck.com/2017/08/can...-review-video/



Here is the Ram
 
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your almost gauranteed to have death wobble, and at the very least a horrible shimmy. fords front end has turned out to be a huge pile. durable and reliable you say ?
Yeah, I was worried about DW for a bit but you know what? My dually has been rock solid. The only suspension work I've done is installed airbags in the rear - everything else is factory original. Sitting at just under 15,000 miles, more than half of which were under heavy load. And not to be too pedantic but I did say 'powertrain', in which the engine and transmission are amazing. I'll grant you some drivetrains, especially in the F250's, have problems.
 
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your almost gauranteed to have death wobble, and at the very least a horrible shimmy. fords front end has turned out to be a huge pile. durable and reliable you say ?
What are you doing here? Go love up on your Mexico outsourced RAM and think about the thousands of US workers that COULD be assembling your truck.

You add nothing of value but criticism for blown up problems on a vehicle you don't even own or plan to own.
 
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I'll grant you some drivetrains, especially in the F250's, have problems.
Details please.

Thanks.
 
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Details please.

Thanks.
Look at the data in the DW spreadsheet/poll started in that thread. When I looked at it some time ago, more F250's appeared to be impacted.
 
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So the reference was towards DW. Got ya. Thanks. Maybe Ford sells more F250s? As is discussed frequently, there is very little difference physically between F250 and F350 SRW trucks. Especially in the front end. No?
 
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So the reference was towards DW. Got ya. Thanks. Maybe Ford sells more F250s? As is discussed frequently, there is very little difference physically between F250 and F350 SRW trucks. Especially in the front end. No?
I don't know - my truck is a dually with the camper/snow plow package. I've become extremely familiar with F350 DRW's and F450's, both of which I think have significantly different suspensions and stance than the F250. My statement was in no way meant to poo-poo the F250.
 
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