Cam position sensor failure (?) question (7.3L 2002). Truck stalling.
#46
Sous,
Yes the ICP sensor is full of oil which I assume means its totally compromised yes? It must use a diaphragm of some sort to measure pressure which I assume has been perforated and so fuel makes it into the sensor harness yes? Maybe? Anyway, that's been ordered. I unplugged it and the truck didn't start. I thought it could be unplugged and the truck would default to some algorithm for pressure adjustment.
As for the IPR (valve) wires, I didnt notice anything abnormal. How could I check for integrity on that circuit?
The only wires I noticed as being a little abused were the ones going into the yellow plug. They look a little bent as they entre the connector I think that's the fuel temp sensor.
The pool of fluid in the valley is diesel fuel.
I tried pulling codes using the TorquePro app but supposedly none were stored.
Yes the ICP sensor is full of oil which I assume means its totally compromised yes? It must use a diaphragm of some sort to measure pressure which I assume has been perforated and so fuel makes it into the sensor harness yes? Maybe? Anyway, that's been ordered. I unplugged it and the truck didn't start. I thought it could be unplugged and the truck would default to some algorithm for pressure adjustment.
As for the IPR (valve) wires, I didnt notice anything abnormal. How could I check for integrity on that circuit?
The only wires I noticed as being a little abused were the ones going into the yellow plug. They look a little bent as they entre the connector I think that's the fuel temp sensor.
The pool of fluid in the valley is diesel fuel.
I tried pulling codes using the TorquePro app but supposedly none were stored.
#48
Just to further clarify, because it has been confused by others b4, he's referring to oil in the electrical connection of the sensor, not the head the sensor screws into.
The fuel bowl heater/water in fuel sensor wire look compromised, maybe just glare, tried unplugging the fuel bowl heater?
The ICP sensor in your pics is the one with the purple weather seal
The fuel bowl heater/water in fuel sensor wire look compromised, maybe just glare, tried unplugging the fuel bowl heater?
The ICP sensor in your pics is the one with the purple weather seal
Yes correct the electrical connection between the sensor and wiring harness was wet fuel.
#51
Yes, based on your pictures and descriptions the ICP is completely compromised and should be replaced. It measures oil, not fuel.
Yes, the PCM will set a default parameter (700 I think) when the ICP is unplugged.
Yes, the truck should start and run if the faulty ICP is unplugged, but only if there is not another show stopping fault somewhere else.
Your right, the wires I saw that look damaged were not the IPR. Again, I am on my phone and was wrong.
As for testing the IPR circuit, I believe that KOEO there should be 12v at the connector, but I am not 100% on that. You could remove the connector and peel back the loom a few inches to inspect the wiring.
Is the tin nut securely on the rear of the IPR?
Are you sure you put the solenoid on the IPR properly after installing the valve body?
I think TP is a piece of **** program and I hope one day I can spit on the shoes of the guy that designed it. Forscan is not as pretty to look at, but works so much better. There is a Lite version for Android.
Try disconnecting the fuel bowl heater, wrap some tape around the wires separately and leave it disconnected. Try starting the truck then. Verify the wait to start light is still coming on too.
Yes, the PCM will set a default parameter (700 I think) when the ICP is unplugged.
Yes, the truck should start and run if the faulty ICP is unplugged, but only if there is not another show stopping fault somewhere else.
Your right, the wires I saw that look damaged were not the IPR. Again, I am on my phone and was wrong.
As for testing the IPR circuit, I believe that KOEO there should be 12v at the connector, but I am not 100% on that. You could remove the connector and peel back the loom a few inches to inspect the wiring.
Is the tin nut securely on the rear of the IPR?
Are you sure you put the solenoid on the IPR properly after installing the valve body?
I think TP is a piece of **** program and I hope one day I can spit on the shoes of the guy that designed it. Forscan is not as pretty to look at, but works so much better. There is a Lite version for Android.
Try disconnecting the fuel bowl heater, wrap some tape around the wires separately and leave it disconnected. Try starting the truck then. Verify the wait to start light is still coming on too.
#53
#54
Yes, based on your pictures and descriptions the ICP is completely compromised and should be replaced. It measures oil, not fuel.
Yes, the PCM will set a default parameter (700 I think) when the ICP is unplugged.
Yes, the truck should start and run if the faulty ICP is unplugged, but only if there is not another show stopping fault somewhere else.
Your right, the wires I saw that look damaged were not the IPR. Again, I am on my phone and was wrong.
As for testing the IPR circuit, I believe that KOEO there should be 12v at the connector, but I am not 100% on that. You could remove the connector and peel back the loom a few inches to inspect the wiring.
Is the tin nut securely on the rear of the IPR?
Are you sure you put the solenoid on the IPR properly after installing the valve body?
I think TP is a piece of **** program and I hope one day I can spit on the shoes of the guy that designed it. Forscan is not as pretty to look at, but works so much better. There is a Lite version for Android.
Try disconnecting the fuel bowl heater, wrap some tape around the wires separately and leave it disconnected. Try starting the truck then. Verify the wait to start light is still coming on too.
Yes, the PCM will set a default parameter (700 I think) when the ICP is unplugged.
Yes, the truck should start and run if the faulty ICP is unplugged, but only if there is not another show stopping fault somewhere else.
Your right, the wires I saw that look damaged were not the IPR. Again, I am on my phone and was wrong.
As for testing the IPR circuit, I believe that KOEO there should be 12v at the connector, but I am not 100% on that. You could remove the connector and peel back the loom a few inches to inspect the wiring.
Is the tin nut securely on the rear of the IPR?
Are you sure you put the solenoid on the IPR properly after installing the valve body?
I think TP is a piece of **** program and I hope one day I can spit on the shoes of the guy that designed it. Forscan is not as pretty to look at, but works so much better. There is a Lite version for Android.
Try disconnecting the fuel bowl heater, wrap some tape around the wires separately and leave it disconnected. Try starting the truck then. Verify the wait to start light is still coming on too.
Ill try that with the fuel bowl wires. I should have already addressed that. Silly me.
I have Autoenguity but I dont have the FORD extension. I need to get that. I use it for my other vehicles.
Ill check the wires for the IPR.
#55
#57
I have the truck on a trickle charger 24/7 when not in use. One battery is new,the other is still in good shape.
#60
We only have 1 fuel pump in the system. 100psi output, regulated to around 55 psi. The sensor would not affect engine tho. It could be measuring the amount of milk sprayed out of a toddler's nose, engine PCM still doesn't see it's reading.
It could indicate your fuel bowl lid seal was improperly installed, but would expect much more fuel pooling and splashing all over ground after no start from that low of fuel pressure. If you havent rebuilt the fuel bowl the kit is pretty cheap, get it from Desiel orings, and spring for the florosilicone drain valve orings. But engine should still run with a little seeping
It could indicate your fuel bowl lid seal was improperly installed, but would expect much more fuel pooling and splashing all over ground after no start from that low of fuel pressure. If you havent rebuilt the fuel bowl the kit is pretty cheap, get it from Desiel orings, and spring for the florosilicone drain valve orings. But engine should still run with a little seeping