LOL.....That`s a good one but I`d replace the name "Dodge" with "FCA".

 

Isn't the 6R140 rated for up to 1,030 lbs of torque? I thought the rumors on the 10R140 were up to 1,000 lbs of torque.

So IMO, either Ford will surprise us with a 10R140 with higher ratings than the rumor mill has circulated or if they do go after breaking the 1,000 lbs number then maybe the 6R140 will be required to handle the extra torque.

I could also see Ford selling an upgraded motor with over 1,000 lbs for an additional fee over the 'standard issue' PSD. It would be a way to get more money out of customers who have to have the king of the hill torque.

Transmissions have 2 purposes...1. to help get heavy loads up and running efficiently, safely, predictable and reliably. Job #2 is to protect the engine. So the marriage between engine and transmission is a very important key to a properly set up vehicle and these HP/ Torque wars are often many years in the making as transmission and engine development go hand in hand and often in different upgrade cycles.

 

The problem for a light-duty pickup, let alone a heavy-duty pickup, is range. I can get a half-ton with a 34-36 gallon tank and drive all day long without refueling. The Super Duty 48-gallon tank can reach 1000 miles with the diesel, driven conservatively with a light load and no trailer. The only times I've spent 15 minutes at a gas station is when I was waiting for a pump. Electric trucks have to match the range as much as the pulling power, or truck owners won't buy. The batteries needed to get that kind of range would still require significant space and weight... and charging stations would have to massively grow in number. A diesel generator powering 4 traction motors locomotive-style may prove to be a better deal for owners in the near term.

 

LMAO, no you didn't. Unless it was icy or wet and your tires are bald.

 

 

I heard about the Atlis. A number of key issues:
1 - You have to find and use an Atlis charging station for that 15 minute charge. Doubtful they will be as plentiful (especially in the sticks) as gas stations.
2 - Atlis is likely counting on the $7500 tax credit to be price competitive with the current HD pickups.
3 - Still just a maximum of 500 miles in range, with no information about how much a premium you have to pay over the standard 300 mile range, nor what a significant load will do tho those range estimates. Cold weather in particular will have a significant effect on range with the need for electric heaters.

Commercial buyers in particular want return on investment, which is why they buy HD pickups as minimally equipped as they do. Consumers who want a luxurious rig to pull their home away from home don't want to stop every 250 miles to spend time to recharge. Is there a market for the Atlis as it sits now? Yes. There's always a niche that will want a product like this. But an all-electric pickup will have to have specs much closer to what we're driving now to make any inroads to the multi-million annual sales of Ford, GM, and FCA.

 

It's just the beginning.
There's no stopping progress.
Buckle up!

 

You're wrong on both counts. It happened on my way home from the dealer Southern Califoronia Desert and it hasn't rained here in years.
Tires only had 50 miles on them new from the dealer.
Nice try but EPIC fail on your part.

But please feel free to come up with some other excuses.

I suppose you aslo want to doubt that when I "punched" it my head hit the head rest yeaterday?

Go ahead I'll make some popcorn and see what you dredge up for that one.

 

I loath the thought if an electric heavy duty truck...both hybrid and all electric.

There is no replacement for displacement and there is no replacement for the sound of a powerful engine doing its work.

 

Sorry but need video or it did not happen. Just sayin...… I have vehicles that do what you say you did and they lol are not new, stock diesel trucks. LOL..

You drive this---I will believe you.

 

Lets keep in mind that's 1000 Ft/Lbs from a six cylinder or 166.6 Ft/Lbs per cylinder...as compared to 115.6 per cylinder for the PSD

 

Can't wait to see what Ford has to offer up.. I however just ordered a 3500 SRW Longhorn with the HO 6.7,Auto Rear Leveling Air Suspension,Rambox etc for there "dealer stock".

I'm a diehard Ford guy but love the new RAM interiors and the Rear Air leveling Air suspension plus the Rambox. I'm patiently waiting Ford....

 

 

No doubt electrics are up and coming and certainly have their place, but, based on my singular experience driving one, they don't have much, if any, soul. I like the experience of "driving" a vehicle. Electrics are just a way of getting from point A to point B in as vanilla a fashion as possible.

If I was commuting 30 or 60 miles a day and just needed a shell to transport me back and forth, a Leaf would fit the bill just fine. I like to feel the engine working and I suspect pulling the Ike in an electric truck would be a huge disappointment.

Just my $.02.

 

Elon Musk begs to differ. Have you ever driven a Tesla with 800 lbs of torque? Its anything but vanilla. I have a feeling were going to see massive torque electric vehicles here really soon. The logistics of using a truck and having it be electric are the only thing I'm still scratching my head over. It would be pretty cool to hook up my solar panels on my toy hauler to my truck and "refuel" for the couple days that I'm out boondocking in the Sierras or desert. That's actually a really awesome thought that I would never have to worry about fuel again, just stop, camp, and let the truck recharge.....we just arent there yet.

Vanilla what?