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Old 01-11-2019, 04:18 PM
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2011-2016 vs 17 and up 6.2

I used to own a 2013 F350 crew cab long bed with the 6.2 gas engine. I had it for 9 months and traded it in because I couldnít stand all the power being above 4000 rpms.
So for those who have had the 2016 and older 6.2ís and bought a 2017 or newer truck, can you feel the difference in midrange torque? Is there a difference in the way it tows? On paper itís supposed to make torque at lower rpm, but do you notice a difference?
 
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:29 PM
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I traded a 2011 F350 for a 2017 F250. Both 6.2 gassers and I feel a significant difference in torque. I don't tow much, just a bass boat, so I can't weigh in on that but I can tell you the 2017 feels like a hot rod compared to the 2011.
 
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:56 PM
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Did you have the same axle ratios in both trucks?
 
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:04 PM
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Yes, both were 3.73
 
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:14 PM
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Excellent, thanks.
 
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:28 PM
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...On paper it’s supposed to make torque at lower rpm, but do you notice a difference?
A clarification, if I may: The 2017+ 6.2 is spec’d to produce higher peak torque (430 vs. 405) and at a lower RPM (3800 vs. 4500) compared to the 2016 and earlier.

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Old 01-11-2019, 05:41 PM
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I traded a 2011 F350 for a 2017 F250. Both 6.2 gassers and I feel a significant difference in torque. I don't tow much, just a bass boat, so I can't weigh in on that but I can tell you the 2017 feels like a hot rod compared to the 2011.
Another difference is the transmission. The 2011 F350 6.2 was fitted with the 6R140 transmission (and the F350 6.2 still is). The 2017+ F250 6.2 is fitted with the new-for-2017 6R100 TorqShift G transmission, which has a deeper (shorter) first gear.

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Old 01-11-2019, 06:46 PM
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Yes, thanks SDcrewzer, 25ft.lb.of torque isn’t a lot but it might be when it comes in at a lower rpm. That’s what I want to know, do you notice it? Does it help with towing? Does it help stay in a higher gear?
 
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Old 01-11-2019, 07:06 PM
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Just towed 10k up and down some pretty good grades going to a job site.
Never hit past 3500 rpm and it was for a very short period then next gear and just pulled like a rented mule.
It's my first one but sharing due to many 4k+ RPMs comments which in this case does not apply.
Of course a couple of posts explained the leap in tech for all this.
So hope this adds another data point to show how well it tows at less then 4k rpms with a 10k lb load.
 
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:23 PM
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Yes, thanks SDcrewzer, 25ft.lb.of torque isnít a lot but it might be when it comes in at a lower rpm. Thatís what I want to know, do you notice it? Does it help with towing? Does it help stay in a higher gear?
I donít have any pre-2017 experience with the 6.2, so I canít offer an objective comparison.

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Old 01-12-2019, 05:19 AM
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I did a lot of research before deciding on the 6.2, and honestly the biggest factor I found in whether someone enjoyed the gasser was how much they didnt mind the higher RPMs. If you "couldn't stand" the older 6.2's power band, I don't think there is any magic they could have done to make you actually enjoy it with the new models.

Without a turbo or a huge increase in displacement, it is still going to spin twice as fast as the 6.7 on the same climbs. If that doesn't sound apoealing to you, get the diesel.
 
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:02 AM
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I traded in my 2011 250 w/6.2 3:73 for a 2017 250 w/6.2 3:73. I towed my Jeep with both and the 2017 felt better all around. They both still revíd high when climbing hills though. All and all the 2017 is much better. imho.
 
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Old 01-12-2019, 10:17 AM
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RPM's never bothered me. My old trusty 6.0 in my 06 GM 2500 would scream in the hills and made great power. But that's where the LS motors get their power. If engine teams can test new motors and WOT with load for hours on end, Im sure "high RPMS" for a few minutes or a downshift to pass somebody is a piece of cake.
 
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:46 PM
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I’m never going to buy a Ford Diesel again. My 6 liter and my 6.7 both left me stranded on the road with the camper in tow. The 6 liter was actually more reliable than the 6.7. So no Diesels for me.
I had a 08 F350 with the 3v V10 that would pull my 8500 lb camper easily, it has more torque at a lower rpm than the 6.2. My present truck is a 2005 excursion with the V10 with the same amount of torque as the 6.2. I realize that the 6.2 has more hp but my old antiquated v10 pulls better than my 6.2 did. What I mean by that is, it doesn’t need constantly downshift, my v10 just downshifts into 3rd and pulls. So if the ‘17 and newer 6.2 doesn’t feel more torquey in the midrange, I’ll just stick with what I have. I’ll probably just wait for the new gas 7.3.
 
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Old 01-12-2019, 04:09 PM
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I am a right lane slug.

In my '11 F-250 if I tried to accelerate it would down-shift to second and make a lot of noise and a moderate amount of acceleration. In my '17 F-350 acceleration is brisker without all the fuss.
 

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