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Old 01-01-2019, 06:58 PM
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Hi guys! My name is Brandon, I live in Eden Prairie, MN, and I've been lurking here for a long time trying to decide if I should undertake the project below. My grandpa's 1966 F250 Camper Special has been sitting behind the barn in Kansas for about 8 years now. I learned to drive on this truck when I was 12 years old hauling hay around the farm. I've been thinking about loading it up and bringing it to MN and starting the restoration project, but I wasn't sure it was something I could do. After reading thread after thread after thread, I've decided to take the plunge.

I always thought he junked it because it quit running, but when I talked to him a few weeks ago asking about it, he told me the brakes were going out and he didn't want to deal with it!

This truck has a ton of sentimental meaning to me. My grandpa was my best friend growing up and we spent hours upon hours over many years in this truck together. I think it would be the coolest thing ever to get it back to its glory days. And even cooler to have something to hand down to my son in the future.

I've put together a good team willing to help. Some friends that are great "car guys" and my son has a couple of friends that love to do body work. Can't wait to get started. I just want to thank you all for helping me get the courage up to do it and thank you in advance for all of the answers to the questions I'm sure to ask over the next few years!



 
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:10 AM
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my advice is to get the truck.....
have a place for it....
brakes....original brakes are fine...
get it running.....
go though each essential system....brakes....engine....wiring.....and so on.
for now the body looks OK as far as I can see.....
what you don't want to do is take it all apart
 
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Great start to your story enjoy the build.
 
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Hi guys! My name is Brandon, I live in Eden Prairie, MN, and I've been lurking here for a long time trying to decide if I should undertake the project below. My grandpa's 1966 F250 Camper Special has been sitting behind the barn in Kansas for about 8 years now. I learned to drive on this truck when I was 12 years old hauling hay around the farm. I've been thinking about loading it up and bringing it to MN and starting the restoration project, but I wasn't sure it was something I could do. After reading thread after thread after thread, I've decided to take the plunge.

I always thought he junked it because it quit running, but when I talked to him a few weeks ago asking about it, he told me the brakes were going out and he didn't want to deal with it!

This truck has a ton of sentimental meaning to me. My grandpa was my best friend growing up and we spent hours upon hours over many years in this truck together. I think it would be the coolest thing ever to get it back to its glory days. And even cooler to have something to hand down to my son in the future.

I've put together a good team willing to help. Some friends that are great "car guys" and my son has a couple of friends that love to do body work. Can't wait to get started. I just want to thank you all for helping me get the courage up to do it and thank you in advance for all of the answers to the questions I'm sure to ask over the next few years!

F25 = F250 2WD

Y = 352 2V

K = Kansas City MO Assembly Plant.

879349 = 1966.

129" Wheelbase.

J = Rangoon Red.

F250 2WD .. 7500 lbs. GVWR

E81: E = Red Crush Vinyl & Red Cody Pattern Woven Plastic / 81 = 81B Custom Cab.

No TRANS code of 6, this is an assembly line error. If the truck has A/T: G = MX Cruise-O-Matic, If it has a 4 speed: A = New Process 435 or F = Warner T-18.

24 = Dana 60 Rear Axle / 4.10-1 / 5,200 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.

7,500 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

172 net HP @ 4,000 RPM

53 = Kansas City MO Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

 
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Yes, fix the stock brakes, change out all the fluids, make any adjustments that are needed. JUST DON'T TAKE IT APART. I say this not because you can't do it, I say it because I'm guessing 70% of all automobiles taken apart for restoring, don't get back together. They get junked, sold to other parties for parts, or the sit in a garage or barn in pieces. You will get so much more from it running the way it is now. You can even pick up your grandpa and take him for a ride, letting him tell you how all the character lines and dents became part of the patina it has. Plenty of time to restore that truck when you two aren't driving it around. Enjoy it after the repairs, its much more fun.
 
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:40 PM
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Way cool truck! I agree with everyone else, get it moving (and stopping) down the road before you decide what to do with it. Can't wait to hear about the progress!
 
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Thanks for the input, guys! That was kind of the plan... get it running and enjoy it a little first!

I do know one of the cab mounts is in pretty bad shape. Not sure if that needs to be fixed asap or not?

Also, thoughts on doing a little work on the interior to make it a little more comfortable to drive before doing anything else to the truck?
 
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:52 PM
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Also, thoughts on doing a little work on the interior to make it a little more comfortable to drive before doing anything else to the truck?
My interior looks way worse than yours I drive my truck everyday lol!
 
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:57 PM
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My interior looks way worse than yours I drive my truck everyday lol!
Haha! I should've said "make it more likely that my wife will ride in it with me"
 
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I drove the twin to your truck back in the 80's. Sold it when I joined the Air Force. Still miss it. Enjoy yours with your family.
 
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A word (opinion) on Ford brakes from the era. First, note that I have owned every mid-sixties Ford save a Fairlane. Multiples of most. My former opinion, formed in the late-70's was that this era's Ford brakes were criminally bad.

That has changed radically in the last 10 years. Why?? Changes in brake lining is my best guess.

Anyway. I purchased a very original Ford Falcon deluxe about 10 years ago. 50,000 miles and in nice shape. Previous Falcons (Falcon-based) were: '64 Squire wagon, '64 Econoline HD 4 speed, '64 Comet, '64 - '65 - '67 Mustangs, all with non-power drums. So I've experience in how they drive. All the above to give a sense of my knowledge.

The first thing I did with the '61 was go through the brakes. New everything; drums, linings, cylinders. Name brand linings: Raybestos. The brakes on that car were very good. So good, that my wife and daughter both drove the car, my wife drove it as a daily for about a year. No complaints about stopping, ever. The Econoline was similar in braking, and similarly done.

Point?? Stock brakes are fine on this era truck, as long as the brake linings are replaced with new, brand name linings. I would not trust what is on the truck now, nor would I care for NOS/NORS.

As always, your truck, my opinion.

P.S. If I had backing plates, I'd put my truck back to drums. Reason: they self-energise, discs do not. Discs require extra leg pressure (over drums) to stop. I do not wish for power assist.
 
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Get yourself a reprint copy of the 1966 Ford Truck Shop Manual. Trust Me. Maybe $50 or so and will pay for itself. A barrel of $100 bills is nice to have, too.
 
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Old 01-03-2019, 04:01 AM
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Welcome aboard, Brandon
Grand old truck with a wonderful story. I'm currently working on a very similar truck, only a year older. Tedster beat me to the punch but the Shop manual will be the best money you'll spend. Also consider the parts disc from hipoparts. That thing is invaluable to me.
This old gal will be as much fun to drive as you remember but beware, the steering column will have grown while you were away..
I started out with a rebuild of the brakes and think it is a good (and wise) place to begin. It is all pretty straightforward and not too expensive provided the drums are viable. I couldn't tell from your photo as to whether your truck has the one piece rims or the lock ring, two piece ones. Mine had the two piece and I refurb-ed them. They're fine but if I had to do it over I'd go with new ones.. Also, give that rusted out section a closer look. Rust is insidious once it gets started. Hopefully it's a slight as you state.
As for your significant other, give the old truck a good cleaning and then buff it down with a decent wax. You'll be amazed at how well that old paint holds up.. With a little elbow grease it will 'pop'.
Also, ask your Grandfather for as much literature and documentation as he can find.. It is nice to have that type of written history.
Good luck and please, more pics !
 
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1950 F1 seat I did last year. I had never done squeezed a hog ring before. I think it came out decent.
It was a Cartouche kit from Macs...it came with everything including the hog rings and pliers.
180 bucks.....61-66 may be a little more, not much.
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Thanks again, everyone! Love the enthusiasm and wealth of knowledge in this forum.

I wish I would've said the rust isn't bad on her, but unfortunately that's not the case. Some of this was the reason I wasn't sure I wanted to tackle the project. I know everything can be fixed though... you just need those barrels full of hundred dollar bills

I'd like to get her running and drive her a bit, but I also know some of this will have to be dealt with before I put a foot through the floor pan!






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