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Old 12-12-2018, 12:34 PM
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Things I don't like: The startup screen on the dash is Towing, even not hooked up??? The irritating beep-beep of the horn when you close the door with the engine running...
It will default to Tow screen on start up unless you go to the towing screen and deactivate the trailer. You'll also notice that until you deactivate the trailer in the menu, mileage keeps racking up on your stored active trailer even though you're not towing it.

Anyway, I purposely bought my 2019 F450 now because I didn't want to deal with first year 2020 teething issues, especially with a transmission.
 
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Old 12-12-2018, 12:42 PM
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Like changing underwear when it gets dirty, you change everything every 3 years when they are not selling and for the past 30+ years Ford has been outselling the rest of them.
i dont think you get my point. Ford made cosmetic changes to 83-97 trucks, but for the most part, many things were bolt on changes. Same with the 1999- 2016 super duty line...Which in my opinion is one of the reasons they are so well supported by consumer, industry accessories, aftermarket, etc. But now that ford made a major changeover(like in 1999), i really feel it would behoove them to stick with this line for an equal length of time like the examples I gave....
 
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Originally Posted by Lowmiler
It will default to Tow screen on start up unless you go to the towing screen and deactivate the trailer. You'll also notice that until you deactivate the trailer in the menu, mileage keeps racking up on your stored active trailer even though you're not towing it.

Anyway, I purposely bought my 2019 F450 now because I didn't want to deal with first year 2020 teething issues, especially with a transmission.
THANKS Bro, much obliged to ya, gonna go fix it now.
 
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Originally Posted by pennsylvaniabo
i dont think you get my point. Ford made cosmetic changes to 83-97 trucks, but for the most part, many things were bolt on changes. Same with the 1999- 2016 super duty line...Which in my opinion is one of the reasons they are so well supported by consumer, industry accessories, aftermarket, etc. But now that ford made a major changeover(like in 1999), i really feel it would behoove them to stick with this line for an equal length of time like the examples I gave....
Oh no, not at all, I am agreeing with you 100%, Ford GETS IT!
 
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Old 12-12-2018, 06:59 PM
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Actually, GM outsold for for years since The Chebby and GMC lines were considered separate. Recently though, Ford has taken the overall lead.

Will the body style endure like the last SD series?
IMO, I highly doubt it.
A lot will change, and very fast. Automakers will have to change with it. New emission standards, economic conditions, the advent of electric powered trucks..
Old schoolers like us won’t be dictating design, the new generation will. Eek..
 
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by George C
Actually, GM outsold for for years since The Chebby and GMC lines were considered separate. Recently though, Ford has taken the overall lead.

Will the body style endure like the last SD series?
IMO, I highly doubt it.
A lot will change, and very fast. Automakers will have to change with it. New emission standards, economic conditions, the advent of electric powered trucks..
Old schoolers like us won’t be dictating design, the new generation will. Eek..
Yea, just recently Ford has edged out the others...you might note that '54 Chevy in my sig, yep that was the main ranch truck, back recently when Chevy out sold Ford, I remember those days well...seems like only yesterday


Ford: F-series is best-selling truck for 40 years


by Aaron Smith @AaronSmithCNN

Ford has sold enough F-series trucks to circle the earth more than three times.

The F-series, best known for the popular F-150, has been America's best-selling truck for the 40 consecutive years since its launch, Ford announced Wednesday. Ford (F) says it's sold more than 26 million since the model line came out in 1977.

The F-series has also been the best-selling vehicle of any kind in America for 35 years, the company said.

Ford has sold 818,580 of the trucks in the years since it launched the F-series. It started with the F-100 as a base truck back in 1977, and replaced it with the F-150 in 1984.

The evolution of the F-series followed changes in how people perceived and used trucks. Like blue jeans, pickup trucks went from being something appropriate only for work to being a style and lifestyle statement of their own.
 
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I just hope they fix the width of the truck. Looks too narrow.
 
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Scorpion67
I don’t really agree with that. Most updates are minor, but the 2020 update will be fairly significant. Not sure why anyone would be waiting for a 2021 SD.
All you have to do is look at the 2018 F-150 to see what will change with the 2020 Super Duty. New grille, headlights, taillights, new tailgate, different rim options, and upgrades to engines and transmissions. In the grand scheme of things, it's exactly the same truck. And judging by the ten-speed transmission in the half tons, I'd prefer to keep the 6.

Originally Posted by pennsylvaniabo
i dont think you get my point. Ford made cosmetic changes to 83-97 trucks, but for the most part, many things were bolt on changes. Same with the 1999- 2016 super duty line...Which in my opinion is one of the reasons they are so well supported by consumer, industry accessories, aftermarket, etc. But now that ford made a major changeover(like in 1999), i really feel it would behoove them to stick with this line for an equal length of time like the examples I gave....
What has changed (and Don alluded to) is the fact that trucks are now the single most important vehicle to the domestic manufacturers. They are the best sellers and bring in the most profit. Back in the era you are discussing, they were less important. People now think nothing of buying a 3/4 ton crew cab 4x4 truck for use as a commuter...because they look good, are roomy and comfortable, and go good in snow. And half tons have now become the minivan. So the competition is more fierce than ever and updates must come sooner.

Originally Posted by Pinky Demon
I just hope they fix the width of the truck. Looks too narrow.
The width is the same as all full size trucks have been for years: 80 inches.

 
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Old 12-13-2018, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by troverman
All you have to do is look at the 2018 F-150 to see what will change with the 2020 Super Duty. New grille, headlights, taillights, new tailgate, different rim options, and upgrades to engines and transmissions. In the grand scheme of things, it's exactly the same truck. And judging by the ten-speed transmission in the half tons, I'd prefer to keep the 6.
I agree.
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinky Demon
I just hope they fix the width of the truck. Looks too narrow.
The only truck wider is a Raptor. If it was any wider you'd have to drive with the mirrors folded.
 
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Originally Posted by Sonny Crockett
The only truck wider is a Raptor. If it was any wider you'd have to drive with the mirrors folded.
Nah...I'm able to keep my dually between the lines fairly easily and it's 96" wide. Drive ups are a problem, though.
 
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Nah...I'm able to keep my dually between the lines fairly easily and it's 96" wide. Drive ups are a problem, though.
I agree. After driving a dually for 22+ years, I can pretty much put it where I want it. At my apartment complex, the spaces were designed for cars and are exactly 8 feet wide - I can park my truck with the edge of the outside duals right to the stripe on their side every time... and yet people with compact cars/crossovers can't seem to center themselves
 
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I agree. After driving a dually for 22+ years, I can pretty much put it where I want it. At my apartment complex, the spaces were designed for cars and are exactly 8 feet wide - I can park my truck with the edge of the outside duals right to the stripe on their side every time... and yet people with compact cars/crossovers can't seem to center themselves
Duallys don’t fit at the car wash. In states where’s there hard water - keeping the monster clean is Hugh pain. A heavier SRW with 13,000 GVWR would be best. For $80k I should get what I want.
 
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Originally Posted by Pinky Demon
I just hope they fix the width of the truck. Looks too narrow.
Agree it looks odd. But, I think they need to fix the height. It is several inches too high. The whole truck needs to come down 2 to 3 inches. It's cur rent height, IMO, is a marketing ploy to make it look "lifted". But it is hard to get into and a problem for many 5th wheel owners.
 


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