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What header for a 1995 351W...not too many choices anymore.

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Old 12-03-2018, 12:19 PM
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What header for a 1995 351W...not too many choices anymore.

What header would you recommend for a 1995 F150 351W 4x4, no lift?

I'm looking at long tubes...but there isn't a lot to choose from anymore. I will need EGR connections and the O2 bung. I have found the following:

Pacesetter 70-2223: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/psm-70-2223 (Will need to weld in EGR tap. Reviews are terrible.)
Hedman Street Headers 89270: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-89270 (Only 18 ga pipes and 1/4 inch flange. Will need to weld in O2 bung and EGR tap.)
Hedman Elite Heavy Duty 89278: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-89278 (Expensive, but thick. Will need to weld in EGR tap and O2 bung.)
Ebay cheapies, For example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/SS-Long-Tube-Exhaust-Header-Manifold-for-87-96-Ford-F150-F250-Bronco-5-8-351-V8/232864979733?fits=Model%3AF-150&hash=item3637d59b15:g:lVMAAOSwfxFbknwV:rk:1f :0 (These have the EGR and O2 bungs. Cost is good. Reviews for fitment are bad, bad, bad.)

I plan on having whatever header I get ceramic coated...so that is more cost.

My other options are to either get a set of shorty headers with the necessary EGR tap and coating, or stick with the stock manifolds. The stock manifold would be by far the cheapest as I already have them.

This is for a 351W build I am doing, and the entire exhaust system has to be replaced. All I have is the stock manifolds at this point. I will be installing a magnaflow catalytic converter, and some sort of muffler...not sure yet which.
 
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:56 PM
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I'm facing the same delima. I read that the Flo-tech long tubes are supposed to fit ok, though some folks still reported them touching the frame and transmission pan. But they have the same issue as the other long tubes...no provision for EGR or O2 sensor.

I wonder how the Bassani equal length shorties (https://lmr.com/item/BE-58150LC/1993...Length-Headers) compare to long tubes power-wise. They also don't have a provision for EGR or O2 sensor, but at least you'd know you wouldn't have fitment issues.
 
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Old 12-04-2018, 01:22 PM
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What I would like to get is the Pacesetter 72C2221 headers. But, they don't seem to be made anymore. I'm not sure of the quality of these, but they at least had everything I needed.
 
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:19 AM
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Yep. You and I are looking for the same unicorn... It's looking like we'll have to settle for a horse and just graft a horn onto it's head.
 
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I suggest buying a non emissions set and adding bungs for the EGR and O2, that way you can optimally position these bits for best fit.
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski View Post
I suggest buying a non emissions set and adding bungs for the EGR and O2, that way you can optimally position these bits for best fit.
That is what I am leaning to. Any particular brand any better than the other? Or just pick one and go with it?
 
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I recommend floteks because of plug clearance and adequate starter clearance. I've bent many a collector (drivers side on 4x4 mainly)....so don't be afraid of bending them. It's actually quite easy with a ratchet strap and a torch (installed at head)

Install new *quality* engine mounts before header install, and if any primaries hit the frame, let em.
 
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you could elimate egr and put o2 in a crossover pipe instead
 
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Originally Posted by Skip1970 View Post
you could elimate egr and put o2 in a crossover pipe instead
Nope. I have to keep the EGR for inspections...and I have read the engine won't run right without it.
 
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Originally Posted by '89F2urd View Post
I recommend floteks because of plug clearance and adequate starter clearance. I've bent many a collector (drivers side on 4x4 mainly)....so don't be afraid of bending them. It's actually quite easy with a ratchet strap and a torch (installed at head)

Install new *quality* engine mounts before header install, and if any primaries hit the frame, let em.
Hmmm. I had previously rejected Flowtechs based on the following thread, especially the #3 post by Conanski: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...y-95-f150.html

There will be new engine mounts though, as it is a rebuild project.
 
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Yeah I wouldn't recommend Flowtechs, they fit the engine bay and around the engine fine but hang way too low and are too long overall.
 
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But, the reasons listed above against the flowteks are also what allows for the starter to be removed without taking the header off. Some completely inhibit removal of the starter, and can even cook them to death. Tradeoffs for all of them, just gotta pick your poison
 
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Have you reached out to the folks at Bassani? Back when I had my 351 bronco, thats who I used. I upgraded to ceramic coated heaters, as well as a high flow Y pipe.

Part# 58150 Bassani Exhaust - Bassani.com
Part# 58150C Bassani Exhaust - Bassani.com
 
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Originally Posted by WhlM1 View Post
Have you reached out to the folks at Bassani? Back when I had my 351 bronco, thats who I used. I upgraded to ceramic coated heaters, as well as a high flow Y pipe.

Part# 58150 Bassani Exhaust - Bassani.com
Part# 58150C Bassani Exhaust - Bassani.com
Is that a short tube or a long tube header? The link has no pictures.
 
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But, the reasons listed above against the flowteks are also what allows for the starter to be removed without taking the header off. Some completely inhibit removal of the starter, and can even cook them to death. Tradeoffs for all of them, just gotta pick your poison
That alone is a reason for me to get the flowtechs. I don't want to drop the exhaust to change a starter on the trail.
 

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