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Old Dec 1, 2018 | 11:04 AM
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TDC compression stroke question

so my heads off my 223 and valve job done, ready to go back on. One question I want to be sure about when initially adjusting the valves - I know how to go about adjusting once #1 is at tdc on compression stroke. I can see the piston come to tdc but not 100% sure if it's on compression or exhaust. Advice please.
 
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On #1 compression, the valves will both be closed, #6 valve will be in overlap (partially open).
On #1 exhaust, the valves will in overlap, #6 will both be closed.

Or...if the distributor is still in stock position, the rotor will be pointed towards the oiler (away from the engine) on #1 compression (reference the “1” on the dizzy cap).
On #1 exhaust, the rotor will will be pointed to #6 (towards the engine).
 
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Originally Posted by ige1963
so my heads off my 223 and valve job done, ready to go back on. One question I want to be sure about when initially adjusting the valves - I know how to go about adjusting once #1 is at tdc on compression stroke. I can see the piston come to tdc but not 100% sure if it's on compression or exhaust. Advice please.
The exhaust and compression stroke cycles cannot be easily factored using just a short block. The nearly completed heads have to be on the engine in order to determine which is the exhaust and which is compression since it is the valves and timing of those valves that determines the cycles. The timing chain has to be installed properly in order to proceed.

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Old Dec 3, 2018 | 09:47 PM
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I agree with TA455HO, if the head is off you can't determine compression stroke using pistons. The timing marks on the crank pulley should tell you TDC however.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2018 | 10:17 PM
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If you have the cam and chain done, 1 at tdc that will be it.
 
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When #1 is at TDC of the compression stroke both valves for that cylinder will be closed. If it is the exhaust stroke then the exhaust valve with be open. That's an easy way to tell which stroke it is on, assuming the timing chain/gears have been correctly installed.

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Originally Posted by Shopteach
I agree with TA455HO, if the head is off you can't determine compression stroke using pistons. The timing marks on the crank pulley should tell you TDC however.
The timing mark will tell you TDC, but not which stroke it is on. The timing marks are hit twice since it is a 4-stoke.

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Old Dec 6, 2018 | 04:50 PM
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Thanks to all - I think I have it! As soon as I can get some time in the shop I plan to button her up and give it a go!
 
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Thanks again to all for advice. I installed the head and adjusted the valve lash - started right up. "Skipped" - not quite a miss or surge at high revs but plugs and wires fixed it - new life in an old engine!
 
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Good news, thanks for the update!

What’s next...?
 
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What’s next?

im going to install a good oil pressure gauge. I didn’t change the gasket on the pushrod inspection panel so I’ll watch it for leaks and do it if I need to. Meanwhile, I’m gonna drive it like I stole it!
 
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