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Reengineering 1973 F350 Super Camper Special Spindle

First let me thank those of you who are a part of this forum for your insight and work. I have been meticulously working on the restoration of my 1973 Ford F350 Super Camper Special. During this restoration I have had to overcome several dead stock part issues. Thanks to several distributors and locals I have not yet been unable to find replacement parts. As is, my truck will be running and functional with several additions to the stock set up. With that being said, I want to discuss the oem part number D3TZ-1102-C which is the rotor and hub assembly found only on 73' and 74' SCS possibly early 75'. It is a well known fact and has been documented by the forum previously that the part and any interchangeable aftermarket parts are dead stock and not available period. I do not look to revisit that issue and only mention it because I believe there have been SCS owners who have reengineered the stock spindle or replaced it entirely to allow for a more available rotor and hub assembly. If you are one of those few, please share how this was done as I am running on thin ice with turned rotors. Can we swap out spindles to allow for oem part number D5UZ-1102-A? Please share if you have any information. Thanks guys.
 
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First let me thank those of you who are a part of this forum for your insight and work. I have been meticulously working on the restoration of my 1973 Ford F350 Super Camper Special. During this restoration I have had to overcome several dead stock part issues. Thanks to several distributors and locals I have not yet been unable to find replacement parts. As is, my truck will be running and functional with several additions to the stock set up.

With that being said, I want to discuss the oem part number D3TZ-1102-C which is the rotor and hub assembly found only on '73 and '74 SCS possibly early '75.
Geez Louise! Super Camper Special has nothing to do with it, all of the following F350's with SRW's use the same hub & rotor.

D3TZ-1102-C .. Hub & Rotor Assy / Obsolete

ALL 1973/74 F350's with SRW's, ALL 1975 F350's with SRW's before serial number V80,001.
 
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Thank you for correcting my understanding of the part and applications. Are you aware of the differences between the spindles/suspension on later year F350 trucks?
 
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Thank you for correcting my understanding of the part and applications.

Are you aware of the differences between the spindles/suspension on later year F350 trucks?
Nope, the part numbers are different, but that's all I can tell you.

 
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The raybestos 6018R is the rotor you are looking for, fits 73 to 75. It is discontinued but there is some stock out there. NAPA also has some stock under that part number when you cross reference it.
 
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ford390gashog you are correct and I have searched high and low for any dead stock supplier and have come up empty handed. There are a couple refurbished I have found but I will assume this only means operable after being turned down for the umpteenth time, which is what I have now. If you find a line on a pair I'd be willing to give a finders fee
 
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Can you get one of the later model rotors and take measurements to compare the differences?

You don't have to reengineer the spindle. If you can find a later parts truck you can remove the front suspension and swap it out to keep everything matched. Might not be the cheapest option, but it would still use factory parts.
 
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54hydro you make a good point when you ask if I could compare the late 75-79' part number. I spoke to one of the tech guys at Bendix for quite some time and he informed me that the later rotor/hub assembly was a two piece part and could be seperated so as to replace the rotor itself and not the entire assembly and then pressed back together. The diameter of that later rotor seems to be different than mine which would likely cause misalignment of the caliper even if it mated up to the spindle. I think you have hit the nail on the head when you suggest a full front suspension swap. Otherwise, if not the spindle, then the caliper brackets are going to need reengineered at the very least. I have seen some very nice pictures posted by 76f350spercamprspeal showing a conversion to solid front axle 4WD using high boy donor parts. The member stated it was not his truck but he did a great job sharing the photos. I realize it all boils down to how much work a person wants to do to have it done right. Thanks for the reply.
 
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Well that guy from Bendix was wrong about the rotor and hub being separate. I have a '79 F350 2wd, one piece. The 4x4 would be replaceable separately.
 
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Interesting! I'll have to look into the later assembly more. There might be something there, if nothing else just knowing the differences. I'm close to CNC Auto Ranch here in Texas so I will make a trip there this weekend to find and compare so I can post for everyone.
 
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It cost me a lot, but I had rotors made by one of the big brake mfg, they still had the drawings and made a special run of just 2 for me, I can probably dig out the info if you want, although it's been 5+ years, if I recall they were over $300 each and they were not perfect the dimension between the inner bearing races was off just a hair, they were too close. I took a long time to get them, but I have nice new thick rotors.
 
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fitzmotor that would be greatly appreciated! When you say the dimensions for inner bearing race was off a hair, how did you alleviate that if at all? Was it enough to cause slop or require a resize on the bearing and race? Whatever the case may be, I am very interested in knowing how you made it work. I probably have close to 15k and 300 hours into the truck now and it has sentimental value so I'd like to keep as much of it together as I can and know I wont have to worry about it down the road.
 
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:14 AM
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No, what it was when you tightened down the bearing the outer bearing bottomed on the spindle, almost exactly at the proper adjustment, you would need to lightly grind down the spindle where it jumps up to the larger diameter or put a thin shim under one of the bearing races, I did nothing it was so close to the proper adjustment I did one of those "I will fix that on the next brake job" which has not happened yet.

So I go in for knee surgery in about a hour, that's why I'm on here instead of at work, I will dig that info out later, I keep every receipt so I should be able to get it.
 
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:20 AM
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Seems like that would be a very easy adjustment and likely cost less than any of my other options so far. I appreciate you having time to reply. I hope you are able to get back to work soon with the knee surgery. I will look forward to hearing from you again.
 
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Have you measured the thickness of your current rotors? You may be able to get them turned for now so you can use them and then keep working on getting new ones. Discard thickness seems to be .94”

It might help to post a good pic of your rotor just so everyone here can see exactly what you have.

is it possible to machine the newer rotors/hub some to get them to fit?

The 6018R part number listed above from Napa seems to show it as a two piece setup.
 

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