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Old 11-12-2018, 08:11 PM
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Wow ! - Brake pedal to the floor today ?

My 1999 E250 work truck

Starting a trip to the supply house ---- brake pedal to the floor, no brakes at all. No fluid in the jar.

Broken brake line front pass side. The metal end fitting on the caliper separated from the rubber hose. That's a new one on me. Re-inserted the fitting into the hose....added DOT 3 --- holding fine, brakes working. But I left the truck there.

Here's my question....? Lost all brakes. Thought there was a metering valve involved that would kick in, in case of catastrophic fluid loss ? But lost all braking and fluid. No metering valve or what ? Anyone know if this is the case ?
 
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:14 PM
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Dual reservoir. In case of a line break, say, pumping should get some sort of half-assed braking for a while. Better than nothing.
 
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Old 11-12-2018, 10:05 PM
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Steve are you saying your pass. front brake hose came apart? Or the hard line that feeds the hose came apart? If it's the hose don't trust it by putting it back together, replace the hose.



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Dual reservoir. In case of a line break, say, pumping should get some sort of half-assed braking for a while. Better than nothing.
The older dual reservoir set ups had a separate front and rear circuit. A lot of the newer ABS one are more of a cross system. Front driver & pass. rear on one and pass. front drivers rear on the other. They don't seem to work as well as the older set ups when you have a major leak.

Not sure what the newer Econolines have.
 
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Old 11-12-2018, 10:17 PM
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The metal sq stock - fitting that bolts to the caliper, then connects to the flexible rubber brake hose a couple inches upstream--- that crimp, ferrule connection came apart.

Whatever reservoir set up this is, no nothing for brakes, pumping or otherwise.

I'm having it towed home so I can replace the $17 flex hose.
 
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:10 AM
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I've never seen one come apart at the crimp before. That sucks! I've had plenty that blew out the rubber part of the hoses.

The newer stuff is usually a common reservoir. The older stuff was two completely divided compartments. So even if you lost a line or a hose you still had either front or rear brakes. Just another place where newer doesn't always mean better.

Having to get towed sucks too. Hopefully you've got a AAA card! But at least it's a pretty cheap fix. Just replace the hose then fill and bleed the brakes. If one hose failed I would check the condition of all the other hoses too. Replacing the other front hose is a good idea while you are at it. It would suck to get it back on the road and have the other hose fail.

Good luck!
 
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Old 11-15-2018, 04:18 PM
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Econolines should have a front circuit and a rear circuit. The diagonally split circuits are more of an Asian or FWD thing.

May need to to look into a new HCU or master cylinder if you canít get anything even with pumping the pedal.
 
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Econoline150 View Post
Econolines should have a front circuit and a rear circuit. The diagonally split circuits are more of an Asian or FWD thing.


Good to know. My 96 is the newest I Econoline I've dealt with. And it only has rear abs. I wasn't sure how the newer ones were configured.
 


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