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Can you get date of manufacture from VIN?

The last 5 numbers on my '53 F1 VIN are 31742, indicating its production run number. Is there any way to determine the actual date of manufacture from that?
 
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You can't tell the actual date of manufacture from the vin. Contrary to popular belief, vehicles did not travel down the assembly line in the order of the unit number. Vins were issued when the order was processed in the office, then released for production in batches based on options, colors, etc. The scheduled production date will be stamped on the data plate located inside of the glove box door as part of the production code, but even that could be off by several days one way or the other. Lacking this information, the next best thing would be to compare the unit numbers to other trucks built at the same plant as yours, and try to come close. You would have to find or create a 1953 F series registry to access that data.

Kind of a long answer to your question, but I hope this helps explain.
 
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You can't tell the actual date of manufacture from the vin. Contrary to popular belief, vehicles did not travel down the assembly line in the order of the unit number. Vins were issued when the order was processed in the office, then released for production in batches based on options, colors, etc. The scheduled production date will be stamped on the data plate located inside of the glove box door as part of the production code, but even that could be off by several days one way or the other. Lacking this information, the next best thing would be to compare the unit numbers to other trucks built at the same plant as yours, and try to come close. You would have to find or create a 1953 F series registry to access that data.

Kind of a long answer to your question, but I hope this helps explain.
Thanks for the education! My 1953 F100 glove box door plate has a "Production Code" of 24LNP248J. Can that be translated into a scheduled production date?

 
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Thanks for the education! My 1953 F100 glove box door plate has a "Production Code" of 24LNP248J. Can that be translated into a scheduled production date?
24L = Assembled November (L) 24, 1952. The other letters/numbers cannot be decoded, AFAIK

And, before someone sez something concerning the L

A = January, M = December, the letter I is skipped.
 
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24L = Assembled November (L) 24, 1952. The other letters/numbers cannot be decoded, AFAIK

And, before someone sez something concerning the L

A = January, M = December, the letter I is skipped.
Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge. This fills in another gap in the history of my truck. FYI, it was last registered in 1966 with 54,000 miles on the odometer. 50 years of sitting has taken its toll, but the engine runs, the body is fair and I started on a long term restoration to original condition last spring. New brakes all around are done, working now on lights and general wiring. As a retired guy older than my truck, I know it will be a long but very rewarding process. Your information is much appreciated.
 
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Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge. This fills in another gap in the history of my truck. FYI, it was last registered in 1966 with 54,000 miles on the odometer. 50 years of sitting has taken its toll, but the engine runs, the body is fair and I started on a long term restoration to original condition last spring. New brakes all around are done, working now on lights and general wiring.

As a retired guy older than my truck, I know it will be a long but very rewarding process.
I'm older than your truck and you...born when FDR was prez.
 
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I'm older than your truck and you...born when FDR was prez.

You win! I was born in Truman's first term - 1947.
 
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You win! I was born in Truman's first term - 1947.
Truman's first term began in 1949.

Truman was first elected prez in the 1948 election. Everyone expected Dewey to win, but the morning after the election, Truman held up a newspaper declaring Dewey the winner, but he didn't!

After FDR died in April 1945, Vice President Truman became President by right of succession.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
Truman's first term began in 1949.

Truman was first elected prez in the 1948 election. Everyone expected Dewey to win, but the morning after the election, Truman held up a newspaper declaring Dewey the winner, but he didn't!

After FDR died in April 1945, Vice President Truman became President by right of succession.
Wikipedia and other sources disagree with you, stating :

Presidency (19451953)

Not that it really matters.
 
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I don't give a hoot what Wiki-Wiki says, so much of their info is wrong, bogus, fake, it cannot be taken as gospel.

When a president dies in office, the vice president becomes president, taking over the remaining presidents term.

Millard Fillmore for Zachery Taylor, Andrew Johnson for Abraham Lincoln, Chester Alan Arthur for James Garfield, Theodore Roosevelt for William McKinley, Calvin Coolidge for Warren G. Harding, Harry S Truman for FDR, LBJ for JFK, Gerald R. Ford for Richard M. Nixon.

Ford was appointed Vice President after Spiro Agnew was forced to resign, then Nixon resigned, making Ford the only Vice President to become President that was never elected.
 
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Getting back on topic here, we again have the quandary of when the model year began. Evidence shows that during the period the trucks of our topic were built, the model year followed the calendar year, rather than the "traditional" model year beginning in the fall of the previous year. Consecutive unit numbers in the serial string started each year at 10001, and with the op identifying his truck's number at 31742, that would mean his truck was the 21,742 built at his particular plant (he did not give us the entire serial number, so we don't know which plant it came from). Only 116,437 F100's were built in 1953 across 16 US assembly plants. This would indicate an end of the year produced vehicle, not a beginning, so given this information it is logical to ascertain the build date was November 24, 1953, not 1952.
 
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Getting back on topic here, we again have the quandary of when the model year began. Evidence shows that during the period the trucks of our topic were built, the model year followed the calendar year, rather than the "traditional" model year beginning in the fall of the previous year. Consecutive unit numbers in the serial string started each year at 10001, and with the op identifying his truck's number at 31742, that would mean his truck was the 21,742 built at his particular plant (he did not give us the entire serial number, so we don't know which plant it came from).

Only 116,437 F100's were built in 1953 across 16 US assembly plants. This would indicate an end of the year produced vehicle, not a beginning, so given this information it is logical to ascertain the build date was November 24, 1953, not 1952.
First year of production: A = January, M = December. The letter I is skipped // Second year of production: N = January, Z = December. The letter O is skipped.

So in this case, 24L can only refer to November 24, 1952.

Historically, new vehicle introduction begins in September of the previous year, so production begins in August.

And, the serial numbers apply to all trucks, not just F100's.
 


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