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Old 10-27-2018, 11:25 AM
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Ball park trailer GVW est

I have an all metal 18' car hauler that I am going to use to move some round hay bales, and am trying to decide how many per load. Likely the bales will be in the 900 - 1200 lb range, the trailer has a data plat which give the GVW as 3500 front- 3500 rear, I assume that is cumulative, + 7000 lb, but that doesn't allow for the weight of the trailer itself, of which I have no idea. The puller will be a '96 long bed single cab 4.9 5 speed, the one way distance won't exceed 30 miles, for what that is worth. Just hoping some of the more knowledgeable folks will have at least an opinion.


 
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Old 10-27-2018, 03:13 PM
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You won't be able to load on top of the fenders so 3-4 bales is all you'll be able to haul at one time depending on what size they are
 
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Old 10-27-2018, 05:02 PM
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4 would be ideal, looking to move `12. I haven't seen them yet, but I believe they are 4 X 6. Should be able to haul 2 on the front deck, 1 between the fenders, and one hopefully forward of the dove tail. I don't wan a lot of tongue weight, but for 20 -30 miles, that should be doable. Even if they are the high estimate of 1200 lbs, that would total out 4800 lbs, and we have had trucks on it that weigh more than that.
 
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Old 10-27-2018, 07:59 PM
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Although they say a 4x6 can weigh up to 1200 lbs a standard grass bale that size will be closer to 900-1000 lbs, my baler will make 4x6 bales but I have it set for the smaller 4x5 size, they average 7-800 lbs, if they are the larger 5x5 or 5x6 bales you'll only get 3 on at a time.
I haul 14 4x5 bales per load but I have a bigger trailer, I also bale over 1000 bales each year.


 
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:10 PM
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It is Sudan, and in my experience they run a little heavier. I had one guy who baled Sudan up 5 X 6, & some of them made by backhoe (580) light in the rear carrying them on spikes on the front bucket. I dropped one down too quick, and stopped it way too quick at the bottom, and the rear did a little hop, I'm sure the rear wheels were off the ground.
 
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:08 AM
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Yes Sudan grass is heavier, I baled some oats once, those bales were heavy.
 
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1000 plus bales of hay? DAMN!!!
 
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:28 PM
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Looks like I side stepped that for this year anyhow, the guy offered to deliver if I'd take a few more. Good thing, his were 5.5 X 6, and the heaviest bales I've ever had to deal with. The backhoe struggled with every single one. the first one off the trailer apparently bled all the air from the hydraulic system, it was a controlled fall as the bucket tilt rolled forward nearly dropping it, there was a a rush of air into the reservoir, after that it was ok-ish, still struggled to move them, but the slop was gone from the hydraulics. I rebuilt a couple of cylinders, and changed a few hoses, it seemed ok up til just then, but apparently there was some air in the system. Alls well that ends well, we have some happy cows!!
 
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Yea those 5.5x6 bales of Sudan can weigh over a ton, make sure you get the bale spike all of the way in on those bales, I snapped one off a few years ago moving some of those big bales.
Ran low on hay at the MIL's place and bought around 40 of those big bales to finish out, hauled them on a small trailer like yours three at a time, snapped the spear off trying to set the bale in the middle of the trailer from the rear.
Head gasket was leaking on the F-450 so I was hauling with the wife's Z71 1500 half ton, big trailer was to much for that truck.
The cost for gas making fourteen 35 mile round trips plus replacing the spike made for some pricey hay.
 
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My car trailer scaled out around 1,700 pounds. Yes, a pair of 3,500 pound axles will give you a GVWR of 7,000 pounds. 4 bales at 1,200 pounds is a safe and reasonable assumption.
 
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In sheer desperation before, I've hauled bales on a car trailer - if you throw a couple 8' posts across the deck and tie them to the stake pockets, strap something across the back for a stopper (ramps tied straight up works good), then stack a few pallets between the fenders, you can haul 6 down, 2 up pretty safely (2-across flat sides out, and 2 up top centered in the valleys) without much strap work - did 6 down 4 up a few times (plus one on the back of the pickup!), but it was a stouter trailer with 8-bolt wheels. Your trailer should be good for around 7700# or so at 10% tongue weight, so figure 6K#, so 750# bales would max you out. The worst part of it is the high center of gravity fore/aft - bounces the heck out of the pickup.
 


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