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Old 10-20-2018, 03:45 AM
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I am currently thinking about buying a 1984 heritage f150 (or so the guy selling it to me says it is) one of the pics he sent me has the door tag and vin # so I have that but I need help deciding it because I donít know how unless I payed for a vin report somewhere. Please help! I just added the photos so you can all see. Those pictures are all I have but I wish I had more. I think this guy is just clueless as to what he has. I donít know if the pictures I just added will help. I havenít been able to look at the title but I asked him if the vin on the door and the vin on the title match and he said yes. So heís probably just stupid and doesnít know. I asked him what engine was in it and he said ďIts the 450 something or 464 ish...Ē if that doesnít hint at the fact he definitely doesnít know what he has. This is his description for the ad:

DULLEY! NEW TIRES RUNS PERFECT!!




ASKING $1000 Got a 1984 model 460 carb & need to know CFM & jet sizes.

Numbers on the little aluminum tag are, Motorcraft E3TE-RD B4E7

I'll look on the carb body itseft & see if any numbers stamped onto it.




Carb on the 87 model, numbers stamped onto the carb body right in front of choke flap,

E6JL-9510-AB

List 50278-1

1887


Hereís the vin number: 1FDJF37L8FKA37519

-Thank you in advance, Hayden
 
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:19 AM
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hayden Foutz View Post
I am currently thinking about buying a 1984 heritage F150 (or so the guy selling it to me says it is).

One of the pics he sent me has the door tag and VIN so I have that but I need help deciding it, because I don’t know how unless I paid for a VIN report somewhere.

Here’s the VIN: 1FDJF37L8FKA37519
VIN does not match a 1984 F150!

1FD = FoMoCo USA - Ford Truck - Incomplete Vehicle.

J = Class H - Hydraulic Brakes - 9,001-10,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating range.

F37 = F350 2WD Cab & Chassis (no pickup bed).

L = 460 4V

8 = Check digit, FoMoCo use only.

F = 1985.

K = Kansas City MO Assembly Plant.

A37519 = 1985 Numerical Sequence of Assembly, the trucks specific serial number.

Compare the VIN printed on the Certification Label (glued to the left door face below the latch) to the VIN on the title to see if they match.

People replaced damaged left doors with used doors. 99.9% were unaware that FoMoCo would issue a replacement Certification Label to match the original. Once installed, it cannot be peeled off and reused.

The only Heritage that I'm aware of, is the 2004 F150 using the body of a 1997/2003 F150.
 
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Hayden Foutz View Post
I am currently thinking about buying a 1984 heritage f150 (or so the guy selling it to me says it is) one of the pics he sent me has the door tag and vin # so I have that but I need help deciding it because I don’t know how unless I payed for a vin report somewhere. Please help!

Here’s the vin number: 1FDJF37L8FKA37519

-Thank you in advance, Hayden
Houston, we have a problem...LOL.

That VIN is for a 1985 Chassis/cab F350 4x2 with a 460 V8 in it....

So, the truck has probably had the cab changed at some point. Not a big deal really...it IS fairly common. It is registered and titled as an '84 F150, correct?

Are you in Canada by the way? I've seen two Bullnose trucks for sale recently both advertised as being "Heritage F150" models....whatever that means...

EDIT: I was typing while NumberDummy replied FYI for the double information.
 
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:57 AM
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Houston, we have a problem...LOL.

That VIN is for a 1985 Chassis/cab F350 4x2 with a 460 V8 in it....

So, the truck has probably had the cab changed at some point. Not a big deal really...it IS fairly common. It is registered and titled as an '84 F150, correct?

Are you in Canada by the way? I've seen two Bullnose trucks for sale recently both advertised as being "Heritage F150" models....whatever that means...

EDIT: I was typing while NumberDummy replied FYI for the double information.
The original left door may have been replaced, because that's where the Certification Label is located.

OP lives in Utah. UT heritage: The Transcontinental RR was completed May 10, 1869 by the driving of the Golden Spike at Promontory Summit.
 
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
The original left door may have been replaced, because that's where the Certification Label is located.
Oh, OK. I thought he was referring to the data tag on the cab inside the driver's door. That was the only one I was aware of. I've not looked at them on the door.
 
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:26 AM
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Oh, OK. I thought he was referring to the data tag on the cab inside the driver's door. That was the only one I was aware of. I've not looked at them on the door.
He's referring to the Certification Label, glued to the left door face below the latch. There's no such thing as a "data tag."

1980: The Certification Label replaced the metal Warranty Plate, that was riveted to the left door face below the latch on 1963/79 trucks.
 
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The certification labels are on the door jambs on any 1980-86 I've seen and not on the doors themselves.
 
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis View Post
The certification labels are on the door jambs on any 1980-86 I've seen and not on the doors themselves.
1980/89 Light Truck Parts Catalog sez on page 17 of the General Information section:

Certification Label installed on the following location on F100/350, Bronco, Econoline, Ranger, Bronco II - Latch face of the left front door.
 
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
1980/89 Light Truck Parts Catalog sez on page 17 of the General Information section:

Certification Label installed on the following location on F100/350, Bronco, Econoline, Ranger, Bronco II - Latch face of the left front door.
Uhh, OK then, so you're talking about a label on the door itself. Fine.

Then what is the correct Ford terminology for the vehicle information data label sticker thingy on the driver's door frame/jamb (on the cab)? On the Bullnose trucks.

 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
1980/89 Light Truck Parts Catalog sez on page 17 of the General Information section:

Certification Label installed on the following location on F100/350, Bronco, Econoline, Ranger, Bronco II - Latch face of the left front door.
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Uhh, OK then, so you're talking about the Certification Label on the door itself. Fine.

Then what is the correct Ford terminology for the vehicle information data label sticker thingy on the driver's door frame/jamb (on the cab)? On the Bullnose trucks.
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I got up early this AM to watch a Science Channel "Mysteries of the Abandoned" new episode that was broadcast last night on Fort Drum.

I missed it last night, but just watched it, so now I'm going back to sleep.
 
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Originally Posted by ctubutis View Post
The certification labels are on the door jambs on any 1980-86 I've seen and not on the doors themselves.
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1980/89 Light Truck Parts Catalog sez on page 17 of the General Information section:

Certification Label installed on the following location on F100/350, Bronco, Econoline, Ranger, Bronco II - Latch face of the left front door.
I am with you Chris as that is where both of my 81 F100's are, under the latch on the jamb.

Bill we all know Ford did not make mistakes in the books did they? LOL

For the OP as long as you have the paper work that matches the door jamb & VIN tag in the wind shield and no one looks at the frame stamping I would say you may be ok.
I don't think the DMV cares if it is not a CC with a 460 motor but the paper work has to match the truck.
Dave ----

edit: I just got to thinking, yea I know! We need to see a picture of this truck. It could be a CC 460 truck that the seller is calling something else because some one replaced the rusted fenders with ones from a F150 and why it is called that.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
What it sez...
Ok, except the certification label you're referring to is actually on the cab, not on the door...can we at least agree on that part?

And I'm not referring to what it says in the parts manual....I'm referring to what exists on the actual trucks themselves.
 
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I am with you Chris as that is where both of my 81 F100's are, under the latch on the jamb.
Geez Louise. The latch (21812 in pic) is located on the face of the door, the striker plate (22008) is located on the B pillar (door post/jamb).





 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
1980/89 Light Truck Parts Catalog sez on page 17 of the General Information section:

Certification Label installed on the following location on F100/350, Bronco, Econoline, Ranger, Bronco II - Latch face of the left front door.
 

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