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Side shot. There are a lot of conflicting angles going on here, and the rear door window looks huge. I see now why many of these have shortened doors or a massive B pillar.
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Thanks for the visual updates, love the pics and text to describe the thought process.

I was wondering how you were going to marry the front and back together; my first thoughts were about the geometry and maybe "simpler" supercab route. Very impressive fab skils . Looking forward to the next instalment.


 
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Seen this?
https://lowdownhotrods.smugmug.com/W...s/COE-Project/
your comment about drip rails necessitating a top chop reminded me of this build. They didn’t do the favor of all spelling out all their solutions like you are, but they are getting it done.
Thanks for that! Yeah it would be cool if there was some text with all those pics.
That turned out very nice
 
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I kinda felt like I owed it to ya.
nobody here is more appreciative of your sharing than me!
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Scott, for us want to be body guys can you walk through the metal shaping and more importantly for me the welding steps.
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Scott, for us want to be body guys can you walk through the metal shaping and more importantly for me the welding steps.
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What specifically do you want to know? I'm not really metal shaping here, in the true sense of the word. I'm just cutting stuff apart and re arranging it.
Metal shaping to me is creating new panels from flat sheet.
Also there is a welding "tutorial" here on this forum if you search. If you have simple questions, ask away. I'll do my best to answer
 
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Here is the welding tutorial. I have it bookmarked for when I start learning to weld.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-practice.html
 
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Here is the welding tutorial. I have it bookmarked for when I start learning to weld.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-practice.html
Whatever happened to AXracer? Or maybe I shouldn't bring it up. He was active while I still had Betsy. But I haven't seen anything from him for a couple of years. I see he was last on here in January.
 
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Whatever happened to AXracer? Or maybe I shouldn't bring it up. He was active while I still had Betsy. But I haven't seen anything from him for a couple of years. I see he was last on here in January.
His computer got infected with ransom ware and asked if we could donate to get his computer documents unlocked since he contributes lengthy and worthy how-to threads. Response was poor, and he got miffed and left. But his threads are still here.
 
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What specifically do you want to know? I'm not really metal shaping here, in the true sense of the word. I'm just cutting stuff apart and re arranging it.
Metal shaping to me is creating new panels from flat sheet.
Also there is a welding "tutorial" here on this forum if you search. If you have simple questions, ask away. I'll do my best to answer
I will look at the welding tutorial. I am a newbie in this game and trying to learn as I go. One of the problems I have is not even knowing what questions to ask. I will watch with much interest as you seem to have way more time then me to build so it will go much faster as well. If I see something I will ask for sure. Thanks
One thing for sure would be what tools you are using. Not so much the brand but the type.
 
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I will look at the welding tutorial. I am a newbie in this game and trying to learn as I go. One of the problems I have is not even knowing what questions to ask. I will watch with much interest as you seem to have way more time then me to build so it will go much faster as well. If I see something I will ask for sure. Thanks
One thing for sure would be what tools you are using. Not so much the brand but the type.
That is how I learned....by watching, listening, reading then just diving in and trying. As for having more time....I do this for a living, this is a customer's truck so I need to keep moving on it.
For my rough cuts I'm using a thin abrasive wheel on a 4 1/2" angle grinder. Finer cuts with an air cut off tool and snips. All sheetmetal welding with a Miller 140 mig.
No real special tools, but I suppose many years of experience helps also
 
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That is how I learned....by watching, listening, reading then just diving in and trying. As for having more time....I do this for a living, this is a customer's truck so I need to keep moving on it.
For my rough cuts I'm using a thin abrasive wheel on a 4 1/2" angle grinder. Finer cuts with an air cut off tool and snips. All sheetmetal welding with a Miller 140 mig.
No real special tools, but I suppose many years of experience helps also
That's the way I tackle things also. A "can do" attitude and the willingness to learn and make mistakes will take you a long way in this hobby. Plus, I'm broke and can't afford to pay someone to do the things I need done....LOL.
What I have found, with stuff like Scott is doing, is to be patient and don't man-handle the metal. This usually means you have to make a relief cut and either add or remove metal to get what you need. Threads like this really help, Scott does an amazing job of documenting what he is doing with pics and explanations.

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Any updates this build is amazing
 
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Well it’s nice to see somethings never change. It’s been a while since I’ve been on here but it’s good to see you’re still at it Scott. I’m looking forward to seeing how this one turns out. Haven’t been down your way for a while but it looks like I may have to stop in and catch up.
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Originally Posted by tinman52
Side shot. There are a lot of conflicting angles going on here, and the rear door window looks huge. I see now why many of these have shortened doors or a massive B pillar.


The problem is you've got conflicting leading lines.



Sorry about my ****ty mouse freehand, i couldn't be bothered to break out the tablet.

There's a couple nice lines that are possible solutions here, and i'm biased towards the ones that are based on not modifying the original orange cab.



This would be where i'd go with it ideally. Get that nice arc in the roof and sides without messing with the front of the cab, but dealing with modifying those existing doors would suck.




I'd say this would be the minimum possible modification solution. Remove the arc from the top of the windows, keep it dead paralell to the ridge on the doors, smaller radiuses on the b pillar windows, and a larger one on the very rear to minimize the pillar and focus on the outer form more to diffuse the length of it. Also i shrank the rear door by about a third to keep it proportional and to keep the bed from looking really daft. Maybe a slight radiused arc down starting at the midpoint of the rear door, just to break up the form a little without detracting from the strong straight lines too much.

The good news is that from the window down all the leading lines are dead straight without any arcs. Y'all will really want to mind the taper of the cab from the top too, since the bonus builts have a really serious taper to them. If that's not a nice flowing line it'll look like it has elephantitus but nobody will know why.
 
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Are you putting a vent window in the rear to try and break it up a bit? I don't think a one piece window would look too big plus it's surely a lot of extra work? If you take the radius away from the front window then you might need to do the same to the corner behind it. The roof is a serious amount of work. I'm keen to see pictures of that when it's done.
 


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