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1950 F1 with Camaro front end sitting way low...

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I just picked up a 1950 F1 project with what I've been told is an ealy 80's Camaro front end, but the front end is only a few inches off of the ground. Way closer than I'd like. The previous owner said he planned to use taller springs, but I was wondering if there was such a thing as a spindle that would allow me to get some additional height, or a combination of springs and spindles? Has anyone else had this same issue and found an economical solution?

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Can you post a picture of how the Camaro subframe is attached to the F-1 frame?
 
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I have an 81 Camaro front clip and I don’t have any issues. Are the coil springs just shot? Maybe a new pair will bring up the height.
 
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It may also have drop spindles on it, pictures would be a great help..
 
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I'll try to grab a couple of pictures tomorrow. I'm under the impression that they are good, used springs, but it does now have a 390 and C6 in it which I'm sure is quite a bit heavier than whatever that suspension was holding previously. That being said, it shouldn't be that low.

OK, pics tomorrow, and thanks for everyone's responses.
 
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Check to see if the lower a-arm is level at ride height, if so then there is probably dropped spindles installed. If not, then a stiffer spring would raise it up. I have a friend with the same setup in his 55 and he is always tinkering with springs.
 
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Here are some pictures of the setup. The front grill is just under 6" off of the ground, and with the wheels turned, there is roughly 1/4" before interference between fender and tire. I'd like to see at least 2" and spring rates for a big block as this will be driven and used as a truck and there is a 390 with a C6 in it. I really don't want to wipe out the fenders on the first bump I hit. Thanks!



 
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They don't appear to be drop spindles , can you tell if the springs have been cut..?
 
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Can't tell at this time. It's on my trailer and I can't get a good angle to see. I've never done a front frame swap (I didn't do this one either) but I was wondering if they way it has been done would be contributing to the low ride height. I read that stacking the front on the frame will drop the front end which logically makes sense, but it doesn't look like it was to me.
 
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The Camaro subframe seems to be below the F-1 frame rails, which it needs to be to get anywhere close to normal ride height.
 
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Awesome. They also added a 9" rear which mounts below the leaf springs (they've removed a few leafs). The truck has a pretty strong rake to it, so I have also thought about modifying the rear suspension to bring it down a little bit to lift the front and level out the ride.
 
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I have an 81 firebird clip in my 53. Graft was not done by me either. It's worked out really well for me that I took the rear down to level it out and that inherently gave me back a touch of clearance in front. I went triangulated 4 bar coil overs and the whole gamut in back, but I'd imagine if you got that axle above the leafs and got a decent ride out of it, that you might be okay with the stance.

FYI - this generation GM front had standard and HD packaged springs. The HD's were in the big block cars. If you can source a set, that may be a good cheap start.
 
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Thanks, that is good to hear. How close is the front of your grill to the ground? When you turn the wheel, how close are the fenders to the tires?
 
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