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Old 10-10-2018, 10:20 AM
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Real world 400 driving experiences

I've got a 78 f-250 4x4 with C6 and 3:54 gears I am going to refurbish and turn into my weekend driver. It's not together and running at this point. I'm curious on how the stock 400 works power wise in everyday driving, etc. I've had a 77 F-100 with 302 and 3 speed (no clue on gears, I was 16) and it seemed just OK to me. Had a 76 f-250 with 360, C6 and 4:10 gears. After I put a 4 barrel on, it was acceptable, but no powerhouse. Currently own a 92 F-250 with 351W, E4OD and 4:10 gears. It does pretty well for what I use it for, but needs a little more oomph when pulling a trailer. For work I drive a 2014 F-150 with the 5.0. Not impressed with it at all. Have to wind it up good to get anywhere, but I suspect the 6 speed transmission doesn't help, it never seems to be in the right gear, probably for fuel mileage but it only gets 14 MPG anyway.

I have an old mechanic friend who owned his own shop in the 70s and 80s who is a die hard chevy guy and he said the 400 was one of fords best. Torque monster. That's the only good thing I've heard him say about Ford in 40 years. I've looked up the HP/Torque figures on all the previous trucks I've owned and have come to the conclusion that low RPM torque is what I like, and I'm lucky I've got a 400. I don't drive like a mad man, just putt around hauling firewood and tractors and a camper and running to the hardware store. I very very rarely see over 3000 RPM with my 92 f-250. I'd just like to hear comments on my thoughts and some real world experience from those that drive a 400 compared to other trucks I've owned.

Also, during the rebuild of the truck, I want to do the Tim Meyer pistons, his cam recommendation, still up in the air on 4 barrel and I really don't want headers. I'd like to hear from those running that kind of motor too. Thanks.
 
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:05 PM
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I drove a 80 F350 4x4 with the 400 in it. 4 speed & 4:10 gears & it had no trouble pulling a loaded gooseneck trailer at highway speeds (keep in mind this was back when speed limits were 55-65). Seemed to have just as much low end as the 89 460 we replaced it with, & that was in stock form. It has since been rebuilt with TMeyer pistons & rv cam and is in my 60 F250 with a C6 behind it. I haven't done much with it - need to swap out the 4:56 gears for something a little higher to be able to cruise down the highway. It feels really powerful, but with my gearing, I'm shifting into 3rd at the end of an intersection.
 
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I only have info compiled by someone else, and they show a '78 400 was good for 300 f/lbs at 1400 rpm, and 149 hp at 3200.

Your buddy that thought it was one of the best--what, he slept through the late '50s and 60s?

Anyway, if you are going to put TMI pistons in it, cam it etc, it will have no resemblance to the '78 motor. You should be able to see close to 400 torque and 300+ hp with a mild version of those upgrades.
 
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:15 PM
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I have a rebuilt 400 in my 78 Bronco and it does pretty good. Zero to 60 in just under 8.25 sec. with the power sucking NP203 full time four wheel drive. It has pistons from TMeyer, a smallish roller cam, Edelbrock Performer 400 intake, Holley Avenger 670, and Hooker headers. It will cruise "effortlessly" at 65+ MPH with the stock 3.50 gears.
 
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:26 PM
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Tim’s pistons in a 400 with a mild cam work great and you can’t go wrong. The stock 400 heads flow well for a low end torque like what you mentioned you want. I personally wouldn’t stay with the stock carb and would upgrade to a 4 barrel intake with a new carb or throttle body fuel injection. 300hp and 400tq would be on the low end of a well built 400.

A few things to do or look into for your build.
Dont use the stock timing chain, upgrade to a straight up timing set
The stock heads are good but aftermarket aluminum ones are better, offer closed combustion chambers that will give you detonation preventing squish with your pistons (not sure how Tim’s 400 pistons work with these heads) and allow higher compression ratios.
Roller cam if you can so you don’t have to worry about flat cam lobes.
Your factory exhaust manifolds were made for a 150hp motor. Although they will work they will restrict you engine when it makes twice as much or more power.
Look into Tim’s cam bearings to help with oiling.
Stock valve springs don’t support much valve lift. Pick springs that can support the cam you choose and you may have to have some spring pocket head work too.
Some 400’s can’t support .060 overbore. Try to bore out your block as little as possible.

For personal experience Im running a built 400 in my ‘79 F350 supercab 4x4. I don’t have Tims pistons but I do have old school badger flat top pistons. I’m running the Edelbrock 351m/400 cam, Edelbrock 650 carb, headers and 2.5” dual exhaust. The heads also have some mild porting. This motor has no problem motivating the truck with 4:10’s and 34” tires. Tows my 8k boat well too.
 
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:47 PM
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I had a 78 F-150 4x4 400 C6 with 3.50 gears and 31" tires, I rebuilt the engine in 87 using stock pistons (no TMeyer pistons available back then), basic head work, Cam Dynamics 272 cam, double roller chain for corrected timing, Weiand intake and 600 Holley.
The truck had good low end torque, cruised 55-65 mph effortlessly and averaged mid teens fuel milage, towing power was decent, regrettably sold it in 03 still going strong.
It wasn't the tongue monster my previous 73 F-100 428CJ truck was but it ran pretty good for a 8.5 compression engine, higher compression really wakes these engines up.
Around 05 we built a 80's F-250 mud racer using a 400 with milled 351C pistons, 4v heads, custom cam, Weiand intake and modified 600 Holley, it beat a lot of 460 powered trucks thru the pit. We later installed spacer plates and a Edelbrock 351 4v intake for a better port match, it did pick up a little more hp but torque didn't change much.
 
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