Aftermarket cams
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#17
Yeah. Nothing like all we have to do meet targets are:
- Revise the camshaft
- Increase EGR flow
- Requires larger EGR cooler, which requires a larger water pump
- Scoop in exhaust flow to channel the additional flow
- Eliminate the Pilot Injection what was highly promoted
- Dampen the oil flow harmonics in the oil rails
#18
Yeah. Nothing like all we have to do meet targets are:
- Revise the camshaft
- Increase EGR flow
- Requires larger EGR cooler, which requires a larger water pump
- Scoop in exhaust flow to channel the additional flow
- Eliminate the Pilot Injection what was highly promoted
- Dampen the oil flow harmonics in the oil rails
Staying on topic, my 2005 engine obviously has the later cam that as you so eloquently put it, promotes EGR flow and lowers emissions by keeping more exhaust in the cylinders than new air.
While I'm on the hunt for a 2003 engine and/or cam, there IS a way to overcome what Navistar had to do to the cam to meet emissions: an Odawg intake manifold. This intake manifold increases airflow 46% over the stock intake manifold and allows the rear cylinders to get all the air they should. This intake manifold is designed for emissions defiant trucks. So if you have an EGR cooler or maybe live in a state that tests for it, this intake manifold isn't for you. It costs somewhere between $700 and $900.
Because my engine has to be rebuilt is the only reason why I'm looking for a 2003 cam, the other reason is that mine may be toast because of my heads being improperly torqued and as a result, the valve train may have suffered. When I pulled my pushrods, there was no copper on them.
#19
If no copper, it may be the pushrods were installed upside-down.
If you're idling at the time, there is a distinct change in the motors volume once the temperature threshold is exceeded and this program goes into Pilot Injection.
This cam does have some scuffing on the opening and closing ramps, typical on this motor and of the lifter roller sliding on the surface rather than rolling. It also in these regions has more pitting at the back cylinders, where oil volume should be lowest. That's usually Hertzian Contact Stress delaminating little pits out of the hardened layering. Every time people talk about losing a lifter it may have not been the lifter even though the wheel was destroyed. It just as well could be a blown lobe surface that beats the hell out of the roller. Hey, I got a place to put this verbiage.
This morning I got a picture off eBay of a used cam that was just a little hurt. But it shows a good example of a hardened surface flaking off.
But it can be just the start of this.
If you're idling at the time, there is a distinct change in the motors volume once the temperature threshold is exceeded and this program goes into Pilot Injection.
This cam does have some scuffing on the opening and closing ramps, typical on this motor and of the lifter roller sliding on the surface rather than rolling. It also in these regions has more pitting at the back cylinders, where oil volume should be lowest. That's usually Hertzian Contact Stress delaminating little pits out of the hardened layering. Every time people talk about losing a lifter it may have not been the lifter even though the wheel was destroyed. It just as well could be a blown lobe surface that beats the hell out of the roller. Hey, I got a place to put this verbiage.
This morning I got a picture off eBay of a used cam that was just a little hurt. But it shows a good example of a hardened surface flaking off.
But it can be just the start of this.
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If you're interested in having Pilot Injection or a quieter idle, Mike at KEM diesel writes it well. I have his performance tune on my '05 and I remember starting it up one morning and noticing it was strangely quiet, but as soon as I stepped on the accelerator, the injectors got louder and I was on my way.
#24
If your talking about Pilot Injection to me, I still have it as I never allowed reprogramming. If to others, never mind.
Little Power Shop claims to sell an early 2003 cam, but considering everything I’ve been reading on cam failure in SAE papers, I’m worried more about unknown aftermarket cams then OE. The guys that sell billet cams all are more aggressive in lift then I care to be for their stage 1, but the billets maybe less subseptable to stress fatigue compared to the cast blanks as long as the hardening is deep enough.
Little Power Shop claims to sell an early 2003 cam, but considering everything I’ve been reading on cam failure in SAE papers, I’m worried more about unknown aftermarket cams then OE. The guys that sell billet cams all are more aggressive in lift then I care to be for their stage 1, but the billets maybe less subseptable to stress fatigue compared to the cast blanks as long as the hardening is deep enough.
#26
Ok so I cheated and just copied this. What are your thoughts. They also make one that is used in
the small 5 or 6 cylinder air cooled aircraft engines.
So I got the usal ad from an aircraft supply place and this is one thing I found that is for automotive.
Both gas and diesel. What do you all think of this stuff?
CamGuard - Automotive Oil Supplement 8oz - Bundled Offers
the small 5 or 6 cylinder air cooled aircraft engines.
So I got the usal ad from an aircraft supply place and this is one thing I found that is for automotive.
Both gas and diesel. What do you all think of this stuff?
CamGuard - Automotive Oil Supplement 8oz - Bundled Offers
#27
Just a good dose of ZDDP, zinc? It’s not on the shelves at the parts stores anymore that I could find a couple years ago. Old guys swear by it for cam break in on fresh rebuilds, especially if it has solid lifters. 8oz sound right for 5quarts of oil. I’m not sure if it’s necessary on an engine with roller lifters or even if it’s a good idea. And it smells awful out the exhaust.
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Ok so I cheated and just copied this. What are your thoughts. They also make one that is used in
the small 5 or 6 cylinder air cooled aircraft engines.
So I got the usal ad from an aircraft supply place and this is one thing I found that is for automotive.
Both gas and diesel. What do you all think of this stuff?
CamGuard - Automotive Oil Supplement 8oz - Bundled Offers
the small 5 or 6 cylinder air cooled aircraft engines.
So I got the usal ad from an aircraft supply place and this is one thing I found that is for automotive.
Both gas and diesel. What do you all think of this stuff?
CamGuard - Automotive Oil Supplement 8oz - Bundled Offers
#30
I posted this in the "What ...." thread but it should go here to continue the subject.
I bought an $800 cam from Tasca, cleaning it ready for install and no-go for me.
First, its got a casting void under the surface that has the potential to flake off. Also, look at the roughness of the grinding. You can feel it with your fingernails.
And since I have a profilometer, I can measure the surface roughness.
Mahle states in their information that a roller cam lobe should be 16Ra max to 10Ra. Comp Cams and some other sources are talking about performance and diesel lobes being in the range of 3-5Ra.
Here is my 2003 cam as it came out of my motor.
It was in the 5-6Ra range outside of the roller contact area.
Left a message with Tasca this am ...... waiting.
I bought an $800 cam from Tasca, cleaning it ready for install and no-go for me.
First, its got a casting void under the surface that has the potential to flake off. Also, look at the roughness of the grinding. You can feel it with your fingernails.
And since I have a profilometer, I can measure the surface roughness.
Mahle states in their information that a roller cam lobe should be 16Ra max to 10Ra. Comp Cams and some other sources are talking about performance and diesel lobes being in the range of 3-5Ra.
Here is my 2003 cam as it came out of my motor.
It was in the 5-6Ra range outside of the roller contact area.
Left a message with Tasca this am ...... waiting.