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Old 10-01-2018, 09:40 PM
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Settling for the gasser?

I read a lot of threads on here about the 6.2 vs the 6.7, many negative on the 6.2..."you'll regret not having the diesel" "the loss of power in the hills/mountains is terrible", etc. etc. I just wanted to take a moment to provide some feedback for anyone who might be waffling between the two. I have a 2017 250, SCAB, LB, 6.2L, 3.73 gears. A few days ago we hitched up our Jayco Eagle 330RSTS travel trailer (scaled weight about 11.3K as ready for camping) and headed out from Chicago to our first destination, Moab UT. The flatlands of Iowa and Nebraska were pretty uneventful and even driving through the constant showers wasn't particularly stressful. We spent the night in Golden CO and headed out on I70 mid-morning. I've driven the mountain passes before, but never with a trailer. Heading out, based on feedback from this forum and the various RV forums I read, I thought I was making a huge mistake even attempting to pull this trailer over the Rockies.

I'm happy to report that when we stopped for lunch in Avon after finishing the toughest passes that I literally had a smile on my face with the performance of this truck. I kept it in manual, mostly in 3rd and just let the engine rev up and down the ascents and descents. Heading into Eisenhower tunnel and Vail pass I had to downshift to 2nd a bit to keep speed. Only dropped below 50mph when I got caught up behind slower traffic. Engine temp was same as always, trans temp peaked at 206. Once I got past Vail, I was able to put it back into D for the remainder of the trip. I'm probably not going to make this trip again any time soon, but I'm no longer worried about towing my camper in just about any situation. I will admit that I probably got 6.5mpg from Golden to Vail, but since I bought this truck to pull the camper but also have to use it for my daily commute, I'm so happy I went with the gasser as it doesn't seem to mind the short trips, has more cargo cap. and saved me 8K for a feature I would rarely take advantage of.

I'm sure there are plenty who need the 6.7 for their needs, but I just wanted to toss my support for a 6.2 with 3.73 gears being a great towing machine for what is probably a pretty large travel trailer.
 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:12 PM
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Now just imagine if this 7.3L gas actually comes to fruition, with a nice power bump over the 6.2L

I’ve gone back and forth with myself several times on gas vs diesel. Yeah it’d be cool to have the 440hp/935lb-ft monster diesel! But that’s also the inner kid in me. The more logical side chimes in and reminds me I tow nothing that justifies the added cost or complexity of the diesel.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for getting what ever the hell you want, but it’s also good to know the gas isn’t a bad choice in the right situation
 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:19 PM
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I think you made a good decision, most don't need the 6.7 ...more of a status symbol. Doing it over I would spend the money on a nicer model with a gas engine. If one truly needs the 6.7 fine.
 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:36 PM
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I think you made a good decision, most don't need the 6.7 ...more of a status symbol. Doing it over I would spend the money on a nicer model with a gas engine. If one truly needs the 6.7 fine.
I had a budget and wasn't going over. I too was thinking of the 6.7 until I really sat down and thought it all out. My commute is less then 1 mile round trip to work. I put 5-6k miles a year on my truck and tow 10k lbs 10-15 times a year. My budget was 60k. Instead of a somewhat bare xlt psd, I did a lariat gasser 4.30 with everything I wanted. Can't wait for it to come in.
 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:41 PM
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My last Super Duty was a diesel. It’s not just the initial purchase price but the inevitable (for me at least) list of money sucking mods that just keeps pulling you in! Luckily my family held an intervention and convinced me to go 6.2 this time. We spend more time camping and doing family things now as opposed to tinkering with the truck. Evidently we welcomed a new daughter while I was mired in diesel so I’m getting to spend a lot of time catching up on everything I missed with her. And yes, the new truck pulls the trailer the same as the old one. It still takes us exactly 2 hours and 40 mins to get to our favorite campground.
 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:45 PM
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One thing I won't regret is having a 6.7 once the warranty expires! I went gas as well. Work from home so it's only driven one or twice a week for a short trips of 5 miles or less. I tow 8800lbs and only put about 5000 miles a year on it. Gas was a no brainer for me. I also went with a Lariat gasser w/4.30 axle....everything but the sunroof.
 
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I figure I have about 15K$ more in my bank account, and my 6.2 does everything it needs to do. I'm sure others that tow frequently over 10K lbs are happy with there PSD.
 
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I use my 2001 5.4 as my daily driver so I always get a big smile on my face when I hop into the 2015 6.2/3.73. Such an improvement! I'd probably go into some sort of rapture if I hopped out of the 5.4 into a 6.7 powerstroke!
 
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Old 10-02-2018, 07:55 AM
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I also have a 2017 F250 6.2L 4X4 with 3.73 gears and don't regret it even though I live at a power robbing 7400 ft. I only tow about 10% of the time pulling around 5K going to races. I didn't see any need for a diesel.
 
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Originally Posted by NWnative
One thing I won't regret is having a 6.7 once the warranty expires! I went gas as well. Work from home so it's only driven one or twice a week for a short trips of 5 miles or less. I tow 8800lbs and only put about 5000 miles a year on it. Gas was a no brainer for me. I also went with a Lariat gasser w/4.30 axle....everything but the sunroof.

No kidding you can replace the 6.2 for what a fuel system refresh costs on a 6.7.
 
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When I ordered my truck , the owner came over to introduce himself and noted that this was the first year he has had where they have ordered and sold more 6.2 SD's vs Diesels. Last year 80% of his special orders were PSD. This year he said its only been a tad over 30%
 
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After 15 years of living the F350DRW diesel life it was a bit of a shock to even think about "settling" the 6.2 gasser but like a few of you I decided the extra initial $$$$ and the additional operating cost just didn't make cents...
Gooseneck hitch install soon and we shall see how it goes but thinking our horse trailer @ 7000-7500 total should be no problem and we are not road tripping like before like days gone by...
 
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What I wonder about is resale value. Do the diesels have a better resale than the gassers?
 
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:29 AM
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What I wonder about is resale value. Do the diesels have a better resale than the gassers?
In the past, you'd get your extra initial cost back plus some when trading/selling a diesel. Now, you may get your upfront cost back, but that's about it. People have said that the emissions stuff is making newer diesels not as desirable as a used purchase. I don't know, as I haven't negotiated for one in a while. I do know that trade value plummets with the emission parts removed. Some dealers won't even accept them that way, because of the expense to put back on in order to sell them legally.
 
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:04 AM
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Good trip report. Congrats on your purchase.
 


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