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Old 09-18-2018, 10:57 AM
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2019 F-450 true payload

Hello all,

I currently own a 2018 Raptor and I love it. Only thing is, it is not very good for slide in campers. So, I am looking to buy an F-450 dual rear wheel, crew cab, but want to get an accurate idea on what these vehicles can handle.

Iíve looked at the Ford chart for slide-in campers and I have been a little surprised at the fact that the F-350 can carry more weight. This all aside, I wanted to ask if there is anyone here that has the limited version of the 450 or the Platinum version of the 450 and if they would take a phot of the payload sticker on the door so I can see some samples of how compare to each other.

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Old 09-18-2018, 11:23 AM
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The F450 is rated like that on paper to keep it in this class.
But really, it will laugh at a 5000lb slide in. This is exactly the reason I bought mine.
 
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:43 AM
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It will be within 50# of 4750#. It's an artificially low class 3 limit. It weighs 500# more than the F350 DRW due to stronger tires, wheels, wider front, thicker sway bars and bigger brakes. This results in 500# less payload on paper but a higher real world capability.
 
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Hereís a snapshot of my last trip with my Ď17 450 and slide in camper. Truck didnít even blink. Load the thing up!!!
 
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:25 PM
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Folks, Thank you so much! I had suspected that the #14000 was bogus and was just to stay in the class. Thank you @Richoman for confirming.

My next question is.... How about insurance? If I load my brand new F-450 with the 5600 lb camper that I want and that exceeds the little sticker on the door for payload, in the event of an accident, does the insurance say....NO?

Thanks again for the skinny!
 
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:28 PM
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@nuctrooper, thanks for the scan of the weight slip. That is helpful. I hope that you have some insight into my second question. I see the word "trooper" in your handle... Maybe you are in law inforcement... If so, how about the legality of overloading (carrying a payload that exceeds the sticker on the door frame)?

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Old 09-18-2018, 03:18 PM
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Well, I’m certainly not qualified to give official legal advice, but will share my opinion. I believe in a “reasonable approach”. There is a lot of discussion on the forum about legal responsibility if overweight. But — I haven’t seen actual proof/direct stories about anyone being held additionally liable because they were reasonably overweight. A Tacoma hauling a 5th wheel is not reasonable. It will be obviously questoined, will draw additional scrutiny, and has real safety concerns. A modern 350/450 dually hauling a TC? Nobody will think twice, and there is no significant additional safety concern. If you saw my rig, you would never think “2,200lb overweight — criminal!”
This is of course for private truck / RV use, not commercial duty where scale weights can get you in trouble.
And, because it works for me, doesn’t make it right. The 450 is a beast, though, and won’t let you down.
 
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:38 PM
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Question I agree!!

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There is a lot of discussion on the forum about legal responsibility if overweight. But ó I havenít seen actual proof/direct stories about anyone being held additionally liable because they were reasonably overweight.
I agree 100%. There is a lot of talk but no one can produce a single case where someone even got a ticket for being overweight. Yes it is possible that someone could go through the immense amount of trouble to verify you were "overweight" but in real life this is not going to happen.

And once again, if anyone can produce a non-commercial overweight ticket, or lawsuit that was brought to court, I would love to see it and research it.
 
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From the other side of the coin - if I were going to carry a TC, I'd much rather have the F450 than my F350 dually.
Pulling campers that have their own brakes and suspension is one thing, but when everything is riding on the suspension and brakes of the truck I want the biggest I can get (within reason).
 
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Well put wrvond.
 
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Here is the payload sticker from my 2019 F-450 FX4 Platinum
Within 50# of 4750 as 2009kr said.


 
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My F450 King Ranch says #4730 lbs.
The camper and tie downs will be over 5500lbs.
I have zero concerns. As mentioned above, I have never heard of anyone facing legal issues from this type of setup.
Common sense rules this one.
 
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:14 PM
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If you research max legal capacitys buy each state you will find most, if not all, go by 4 main things
no axle over 20,000lbs, except RVs and Busses, they can be 24,000lbs.
no tandems over 34,000lbs.
No total weight over 80,000lbs.
and the one that interests us, not load on a tire that is more the weigh rating of that tire, as posted on its sidewall. (There is also a formula, if the tire doesn't have a weight rating)
in my research I have found tha some proverances in Canada DO use the sticker on the door, but might not do anything about it if the laws in your home state/provenance allows different.
 
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Originally Posted by RubyRed350Platinum View Post
I agree 100%. There is a lot of talk but no one can produce a single case where someone even got a ticket for being overweight. Yes it is possible that someone could go through the immense amount of trouble to verify you were "overweight" but in real life this is not going to happen.

And once again, if anyone can produce a non-commercial overweight ticket, or lawsuit that was brought to court, I would love to see it and research it.
well said and agree completely. I posted what I have found in another reply.
it comes down to a simple thing, liability.
if you rear end some one it's really not going to matter if you are over or under weight. You didn't give yourself enough room to stop and you a liable.
same if you crossed a white line, you where going too fast to control you rig. They are not going to weight you and say, you where under you door sticker so it was OK for you to cross the line.
All these people that are so worried about there weight, and think NOTHING about going 10 to 20 mph over the speed limit
it will also be the same, over or under door sticker, you where driving too fast and caused an accident, you are lible.
your instkrance company cant get out of paying either. They have to pay no matter what. That is what for.
if you got hit by some idiot that was breaking numerous laws, you are covered, his insurance cant dat he was drunk and speeding and ran a fed light, so we dont have to cover him
 
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:51 PM
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Hereís a snapshot of my last trip with my Ď17 450 and slide in camper. Truck didnít even blink. Load the thing up!!!
Wow, that's heavy. I hit my overloads with "merely" 7800# on the rear axle. For the 10k on the back, do you have air bags, or just squat another inch?

BTW, I think it's kind of humorous that you have the total capacity of an F250 on your back axle. Then again, both have 4 wheels.
 

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