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Old 09-15-2018, 09:36 PM
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2019 F 250 max comfortable towing ?

I have the F250 gasser on order and we're search for our Toy Hauler TT now. The Max tow capacity is listed at 12.5 k # and payload at ~3380#.
When thinking about how much I can actually tow comfortably , do I need to consider how much weight I will have in the truck and do I subtract that from the towable weight?
For example, if my toy hauler has a UVW at 9.5 k # and I put 2k# in it for a total of 11.5 k , that's still 1k under the max tow capacity. Do I need to consider how much weight I put in the truck ?
Is that max tow capacity , 12.5k , a number thats really pushing it or is it a realistic number?
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:21 PM
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These threads usually get a lot of different opinions but I think you’re fine. Most of the trailer weight will be on it’s axles. A small portion (10 to 15%) will actually be on the tongue so it sounds like you’ll have plenty of cushion for both payload and trailer weight. Are your max towing and payload numbers from your specific truck or are they just the advertised numbers? Numbers for a given truck can vary substantially from the generic spec sheet due to config and options.
 
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:41 PM
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Something seems off with those numbers. How did you get that payload number? Was the truck ordered with standard or reduced GVWR? You subtract all weight added to the truck from the GVWR including curb weight. Take curb weight, passengers and cargo and subtract from GVWR. Then figure your hitch weight and subtract that. You should be within the GVWR at this point if not you need to shed weight. Your biggest problem is your GCWR is only 19.5k (based on your indicated 12.5k tow capacity, which indicates 3.73 axle ). There is no way to max out the GVWR of either the truck or the trailer as you will exceed capacity.
 
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:59 PM
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Thanks for the replies,
Gas hog, among other add ons, I ordered the Camper Package / Electronic-locking 3.73 axle / FX4 offroad. Im getting the numbers from their web site. I dont recall anything about reduced GVWR during my ordering process.

 
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:12 PM
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Read the column to the far left, it says maximum payload selector. That is maximum configuration and the delivered truck will have less than that. Ford gets that number using a base XL truck with zero options.
 
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:26 PM
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If it's not too late, I'd opt for the 4.30''s for your build.
 
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:11 AM
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I had a 17' F250 Super Cab, 4x4, 6.2 & 4:30's. Awesome pickup. It handled my 10,000 lb Arctic Fox Travel Trailer very well. I traded it for a F350 6.7 because we bought a Lance Truck Camper. The 6.2 w/4:30's didn't disappoint.
 
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I have the 4.30 in my 2018 F250 CCSB 4x4 with the 6.2, and glad I do. Pull's our Arctic Fox 5ver and ATV trailer that comes in just under 13K great.
 
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Old 09-16-2018, 07:52 AM
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My truck is an F-250 Platinum, 6.2, FX4, 3.73 gears. It has a payload of 2930, so you'll be fine with what your weights are.
 
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The 6.2 with 3.73’s is a turd!!! It’s a whole different truck with 4.30’s! Especially if you plan on upsizing tires and wheels. My mileage is the same and most of the time better with then new truck and 4.30’s then my old truck with 3.73’s too. Get the 4.30’s!
 
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:26 PM
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Does anyone know the details on changing special order trucks? I ordered my truck four weeks ago. Ive sent an email to my car salesman. What have you'all experienced with new order changes?
Very helpful info, now that Ive gone over the 19500# GCWR spec , I see how it works.
 
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Have you considered going to a F350 with 4.30 gears? It would get you higher payload, better transmission and higher GCWR.
 
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Have you considered going to a F350 with 4.30 gears? It would get you higher payload, better transmission and higher GCWR.
Agreed! OP, if a 5th wheel is ever in your future then the F-350 is a much better option. I have an 11K bumper pull toy hauler that my F-350 (with the 6.7L) pulls well. The gas engine wouldn't do nearly as well here in Colorado. I would HAVE to go with the 4.30 gears to try and make up for the gas engine. The diesel is a dream to tow with. The transmission in the F-250 gas truck might not do as well in the mountains as the 6r140 does.

Changing an order is allowed up to a certain point and then it's locked by Ford. My original order was locked by the time I found an error. I had to reorder.
 
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:17 PM
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Agreed! OP, if a 5th wheel is ever in your future then the F-350 is a much better option. I have an 11K bumper pull toy hauler that my F-350 (with the 6.7L) pulls well. The gas engine wouldn't do nearly as well here in Colorado. I would HAVE to go with the 4.30 gears to try and make up for the gas engine. The diesel is a dream to tow with. The transmission in the F-250 gas truck might not do as well in the mountains as the 6r140 does.

Changing an order is allowed up to a certain point and then it's locked by Ford. My original order was locked by the time I found an error. I had to reorder.
Thnx for the reply

Well I had to draw the line somewhere with my budget, so diesel is out for me ( for now ). I live on the east coast but do plan to travel out west at some point.
I looked into the 250 vs 350 ( gas engine ) differences. ( Lots out there in google land !!! ) Doesn't seem like 1k worth of change in tow / load capacity and GVWR. I could be wrong as I'm just learning to decipher the listed specs Ford gives.
(see next post )
 
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With 4.30 and a F350 it's a lot of increase in capacity overall. Big jump in payload, 6R140 transmission and a 23k max GCWR vs your current 19.5k.
 

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