302 Windsor Water Pump
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302 Windsor Water Pump
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Need some advice. Putting a new radiator in my 65 F100 with 302 Windsor. Currently it has a Toyota radiator in it from the previous owner and is not installed properly. I have picked up a 66-later radiator to install, which looks like it will fit fine. I have thermo fans, so clearance for the fan is not an issue.
My only problem is the previous owner swapped the water pump to fit the radiator, which is right inlet, left outlet. Stock is left inlet and right outlet and I'm going back to the stock configuration. There are so many water pumps available to suit my application but the price varies wildly. Are the cheap ones nasty? Is Edelbrock that good it can cost 4x times the price of a cheapy? Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on this?
Need some advice. Putting a new radiator in my 65 F100 with 302 Windsor. Currently it has a Toyota radiator in it from the previous owner and is not installed properly. I have picked up a 66-later radiator to install, which looks like it will fit fine. I have thermo fans, so clearance for the fan is not an issue.
My only problem is the previous owner swapped the water pump to fit the radiator, which is right inlet, left outlet. Stock is left inlet and right outlet and I'm going back to the stock configuration. There are so many water pumps available to suit my application but the price varies wildly. Are the cheap ones nasty? Is Edelbrock that good it can cost 4x times the price of a cheapy? Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on this?
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Right and left ? Which way are you facing the engine ? From the front or from the driver's seat ? Only thing needed is a reman HD with extra cooling or Police application stock pump with the larger impeller. Don't waste your money on a high dollar high performance pump. Chances are you'll get a high rpm pump with a tiny impeller that doesn't move enough coolant in traffic to cool the engine. Also need to pay attention to the timing cover on it. A 66 timing cover may be different than a later cover and will use a different pump. What engine did the timing cover come off of ? There were two style inlet pumps, driver's side or passenger side. The outlet would be the T-stat on the intake, that never changed position. The most efficient was the driver's side inlet pump because it didn't allow the coolant to short cut back to the pump straight down the radiator.
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Or are you talking about the radiator inlet/outlet ? The stock radiator in 66 would have had the inlet and outlet on the passenger side. This was changed in 69-70 when the first driver's side inlet water pumps came out. Only application that didn't change then was the Bronco's, they didn't change til the new big Bronco's came out in 78 (?)
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With regards to Eddy water pumps for the old school engines..... they had/have a very bad design flaw which unless they have recently corrected has been around since "day 1".... specifically the water ports do not line up internally correctly (from the exterior it all looks great! I would avoid …………...
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Right and left ? Which way are you facing the engine ? From the front or from the driver's seat ? Only thing needed is a reman HD with extra cooling or Police application stock pump with the larger impeller. Don't waste your money on a high dollar high performance pump. Chances are you'll get a high rpm pump with a tiny impeller that doesn't move enough coolant in traffic to cool the engine. Also need to pay attention to the timing cover on it. A 66 timing cover may be different than a later cover and will use a different pump. What engine did the timing cover come off of ? There were two style inlet pumps, driver's side or passenger side. The outlet would be the T-stat on the intake, that never changed position. The most efficient was the driver's side inlet pump because it didn't allow the coolant to short cut back to the pump straight down the radiator.
I've found heaps of different pumps that fit my purpose (302 is a crate motor), however the price varies from under A$100 for a "speedmaster" with "bigger impeller and larger cavity size to flow 40 percent more coolant than stock" to more than A$500 for an Edelbrock unit and all sorts in between. Some are alloy, others are cast iron, some are polished, painted, chromed, you name it. I guess the finish is a personal choice, but is alloy better than cast? Will it last? I'm not looking for high performance, just reliability. Edelbrock talks the talk, suitbale for heavy towing etc etc, but are they seriously that much better? Will I regret it if I buy a cheaper model?
Your point about race pumps is a good one and I have noted that. thanks.
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I've never bought any aftermarket pump, so I can't say. The stock O.E. HD reman pumps have always done the job. My 331 has an 88 Crown Vic std volume pump, it's been on the job now for 15 years. It's an aluminum pump. I think I'd go with the cheaper $100 HV pump in this case.
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Or are you talking about the radiator inlet/outlet ? The stock radiator in 66 would have had the inlet and outlet on the passenger side. This was changed in 69-70 when the first driver's side inlet water pumps came out. Only application that didn't change then was the Bronco's, they didn't change til the new big Bronco's came out in 78 (?)
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At one time in the mid 60's the timing cover for the passenger side pump was different. But at the time when they came out with the drivers side inlet pump, the cover was the same for both. Some covers had a cast in pointer, others had a stamped steel pointer that had a small screw attachment on one side, and the lower left hand cover bolt holding the other end. This cover was used for both pumps, the small Broncos retained the passenger side inlet in the 70's
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