2003 F350 Rough Idle when cold
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2003 F350 Rough Idle when cold
If the oil temp is 83 ish it'll run super rough and boggy and if i try driving when it's that low the truck rocks HARD, so i have to wait till the temp is 105-110 before attempting to drive it. Mind you it's been like 90s out where i'm at (kansas) and ihave to plug it in at night just to have it warm enough to drive early morning, otherwise i gotta wait till it warms up and the EBPV stops kicking on. Any reason for this?
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How many miles on your injectors? Have you checked your GPR and how old are your glow plugs? Try plugging the truck in even on warm days and see if it starts better.
I had the same basic issue with my truck, some days it started others no so much. The days it started it was ROUGH as the oil warmed up more injectors came on line and it eventually smoothed out. I replaced the injectors 5 months later, it would turn out that 6 of the 8 were originals with 351K miles on them! Now with new injectors the truck starts perfectly and runs smoothly even at ambient temperature of 6°.
I had the same basic issue with my truck, some days it started others no so much. The days it started it was ROUGH as the oil warmed up more injectors came on line and it eventually smoothed out. I replaced the injectors 5 months later, it would turn out that 6 of the 8 were originals with 351K miles on them! Now with new injectors the truck starts perfectly and runs smoothly even at ambient temperature of 6°.
#5
I currently have my glow plugs on a push buttons because my GPR isn't getting power and warming my glow plugs when the wait light is on (possible PCM issue) and i plug the truck in and it stays about 120-140 and starts and drives perfectly. i bought the truck used, has 316k on it so the injectors could very well need replacing.
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I currently have my glow plugs on a push buttons because my GPR isn't getting power and warming my glow plugs when the wait light is on (possible PCM issue) and i plug the truck in and it stays about 120-140 and starts and drives perfectly. i bought the truck used, has 316k on it so the injectors could very well need replacing.
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I've been curious about the cold sticking injectors and oil viscosity so yesterday I changed from Rotella 15-40 to their 5-40 and unless it was just a lucky day, it's made a world of difference. Before the oil change it was slow to fire and sounded like it was running on about 4 cylinders, it would lope hard and make scary noises. After throttling it a little it sounded to be on 5 or 6, then took quite a while for the others to kick in. This morning, a little bit colder than yesterday, it started much more quickly and only had a slight miss that went away in about 3 seconds. I only ran it about 10 seconds to not heat it up. Now 5-6 hours later I started it again and it started quickly and smoothly right away. It also seems to idle more smoothly with less crackle.
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i'm gonna look into doing this as well. i've heard this multiply times
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Alright, how long are you using the push button to energize your glow plugs? The WTS light is NOT GPR related, when your GPR is working properly it can energize your glow plugs for over two minutes, long after the WTS light is off. If you know for sure, using a multimeter to confirm that ALL your GP's are working and/or you're plugging your truck in then yes I would agree you probably need to look at injectors.
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I had a similar problem with rough running cold starts. The armature spacing on the injectors needs to be in spec or the oil will cause them to stick and misfire until the oil heats up. They make spacers to adjust the distance as it tends to decrease with wear.
The fact that the thinner oil you put in helped indicates the spacing may be decreasing.
I ended up rebuilding my injectors myself but cover the installation of the spacers. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-rebuild.html
The fact that the thinner oil you put in helped indicates the spacing may be decreasing.
I ended up rebuilding my injectors myself but cover the installation of the spacers. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-rebuild.html
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I had a similar problem with rough running cold starts. The armature spacing on the injectors needs to be in spec or the oil will cause them to stick and misfire until the oil heats up. They make spacers to adjust the distance as it tends to decrease with wear.
The fact that the thinner oil you put in helped indicates the spacing may be decreasing.
I ended up rebuilding my injectors myself but cover the installation of the spacers. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-rebuild.html
The fact that the thinner oil you put in helped indicates the spacing may be decreasing.
I ended up rebuilding my injectors myself but cover the installation of the spacers. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-rebuild.html
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You can install the spacers without removing the injectors if the truck is running good when warm.
Performing a buzz test on the injectors when cold will let you know which one(s) are causing the problem. There are you tub videos on this procedure and software that you can download for free to DIY.
Performing a buzz test on the injectors when cold will let you know which one(s) are causing the problem. There are you tub videos on this procedure and software that you can download for free to DIY.
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I believe the shims for putting the armature back into specs cost a total of $40.00. You don't have to pull injectors to do this minor repair. Probably on a YOUTUBE clip.
BTW.... I'm still running my original injectors.... did replace o-rings and re-set armature spacing a while back. Trucks get 17-17.5 mpg.... NOT changing injectors until that changes...
BTW.... I'm still running my original injectors.... did replace o-rings and re-set armature spacing a while back. Trucks get 17-17.5 mpg.... NOT changing injectors until that changes...
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