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What PID for IAT and MAT are you using that works?

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Old 08-20-2018, 09:17 PM
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I have another thread where I have been fighting TorquePro to get PID's to work. Over the past couple of weeks (pathetic I know) I have gotten all of them to work, except for Intake Air Temperature (IAT) and Manifold Air Temperature (MAT). When I set a gauge up to read IAT or MAT the OBD icon at the top of the screen turns red and the there is a message that flashes up for just a moment and says something along the lines of "corrupted PID". Not sure exactly what it says, but I do know it says corrupted.

It is possible that the IAT and MAT sensors are bad and need to be replaced. I believe the IAT sensor is just toward the cab of the air box and the MAT is in the dead center of the spider.

If the PID's I have attempted to use check out based on what others say, then I may purchase new sensors and see if that resolves the problem. Although, first I plan to purchase and run Forscan Lite to see if the sensors are providing readings in Forscan and TP is just being a pain in the *** like it was designed to do. If Forscan also has issues reading these sensors, then I can safely assume they are both bad.

I have tried to run all of these PID's simultaneously and individually. They all produce a dash or null results.

IAT gauge not working PID
PID = 2216a8
Short Name = IAT2
Long Name = [FORD]IAT2 (Method 1)
Min Value = 0.0
Max Value = 60.0
Scale Factor = x1
Unit Type = degrees Celsius
Equation = (((A*256)+B)-32)*(5/9)
Header = Auto

IAT gauge not working PID
PID = 2203ca
Short Name = IAT2
Long Name = [FORD]IAT2 (Method 2)
Min Value = 0.0
Max Value = 60.0
Scale Factor = x1
Unit Type = degrees Celsius
Equation = A-40
Header = Auto

IAT gauge not working PID
PID = 2216a8
Short Name = IAT2
Long Name = IAT2
Min Value = 0.0
Max Value = 60.0
Scale Factor = x1
Unit Type = degrees Celsius
Equation = (((A*256)+B)-32)/1.8
Header = Auto

MAT gauge not working PID
PID = 2.22E+03
Short Name = MAT
Long Name = Manifold Air Temperature
Min Value = 0.0
Max Value = 60.0
Scale Factor = x1
Unit Type = degrees Celsius
Equation = A-40
Header = C410F1

I would really like to get these working so I can document and log the differences between a modified stock GTP38 turbo and the 364.5 SX-E turbo I am installing soon.

Thank you for your time if you have the will power and drive to check your confirmed WORKING PID's regarding IAT and MAT.


This is my other thread where I trash talk TP as much as possible in order to try and get it to submit to the pressures of working properly.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...and-ideas.html
 
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:58 AM
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MAT gauge not working PID
PID = 2.22E+03
That's a typo. It needs to be the correct 6-digit hexadecimal code (beginning with 22). You can try 2216e0

I don't recall ever using IAT myself - it's on the overhead.
 
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That's a typo. It needs to be the correct 6-digit hexadecimal code (beginning with 22). You can try 2216e0
Perhaps that is the one causing the OBD icon to turn red. I will change the PID code to 2216e0 and see is that allows for the MAT gauge to work. When I pulled the PID off your spreadsheet I didn't think it looked right, but trusted that it was. Thanks for the tip, I will report back with if that works or not.

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I don't recall ever using IAT myself - it's on the overhead.
What do you mean? Are you talking about ambient outside temperature is in your overhead display or that you actually have engine bay temperature readout in your overhead display? I would assume there would be a difference, maybe not much, but about 10-15 degrees at least and if I am attempting to log data for comparison of before and after hardware, I would hope for it to be as accurate as possible.
 
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:10 AM
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Yo Sous, i can say in 100% certainty, prior to someone needing my tablet more than me(stolen last year), that was 1 of the gauges i had monitoring. During the summer towing, i saw upwards of >100*+, and that pid was a "standard" one with no modifying of the formula...
 
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I hear ya, and I trust that some of these do work. I don't know if it is me, TP or the combination of the two, but this is proving to be a huge pain in the ***.

I am going to try the CORRECTED PID that Tugly told me was a typo on his spreadsheet.

EDIT: The MAT gauge now works with the CORRECTED hexidecimal code.

The IAT does not work still though. My tablet will be here today and I will load Forscan Lite on it to see if I can read the IAT sensor. It may be a faulty sensor.

Although, if someone is willing to delve into their TP settings for a known, good and working PID for the IAT, I would appreciate you posting the information here.
 
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:12 PM
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Sous, after posting this morning, i started charging the tablet. Im now back and will hook it up to the l99(handshaker) truck. So, itll mimick ur ride..give me a few👍
 
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:19 PM
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Timmy, that would be great if you don't mind and have the time.

I managed to get the MAT working, so just need the IAT gauge now.

It is entirely possible that the sensor has ***** the bed though.

My new tablet just arrived a few minutes ago and I will start building it with the apps and software I prefer soon.
 
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I never could get the IAT gauge to work in TP. If someone gets it to work, I'd definitely be interested. I think Forscan did work for IAT tho.
 
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Thanks for the information Hootr. Hopefully Timmy can come back to us with a PID that does in fact work for IAT in TorquePro.
 
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:53 PM
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Well surprise, surprise, surprise... Forscan Lite reads IAT just fine...

So, the IAT sensor is working and in good order.

Still no IAT via Torque Pro on the tablet on any of the PID's listed above.
 
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FWIW, I cleared the pids with Torque and reloaded the set to get everything working. A bit of a pain to reset some values, but in the end it worked.
 
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Not sure which one im using
Name that temp..

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FWIW, I cleared the pids with Torque and reloaded the set to get everything working. A bit of a pain to reset some values, but in the end it worked.
I will try deleting the extra PID's for IAT tomorrow and hand jam them in and see what happens. At least now I know for a fact that the sensor is working.

 
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Pics are up..
 
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Thanks Timmy, that is what I had on my phone and now on my tablet. Still get no reading from either of those or the one Tugly noted for us.

I will delete them and re-add them one by one tomorrow and hopefully at least one works.
 

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