1999 to 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Any way to get better mileage?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #16  
Old 08-19-2018, 08:57 PM
moymurfs's Avatar
moymurfs
moymurfs is offline
Tuned
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 280
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
As it's been previously stated, it's the nature of the beast. You're driving a heavy, V10, block of a truck. All the mods together might get you 2 more mpg. But your mpg results sound like they are pretty typical.
 
  #17  
Old 08-20-2018, 09:31 AM
jetty's Avatar
jetty
jetty is offline
Tuned
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Houston
Posts: 273
Received 20 Likes on 19 Posts
It is pretty hard to beat the laws of physics. Energy (HP) required to move a vehicle (be it a bicycle or 18 wheeler) is proportional to the square of the velocity. The only way to work around that fact is to improve the prime mover's efficiency at increased HP. As stated, just slow it down and back off the HP, steady freddy wins the fuel economy race..
 
  #18  
Old 08-20-2018, 02:02 PM
smlford's Avatar
smlford
smlford is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: SML / Hatteras
Posts: 1,308
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
As stated above there is no magic wand to drastically increase your mileage but I will add a couple of things I've done that have helped (a little).

1. If you do a lot of highway driving get a tonneau cover.
2. Minimize any extra weight you're carrying.
3. Keep your tires inflated to specs or even the max on your tires if you like.
 
  #19  
Old 08-20-2018, 03:13 PM
SatinBlack03's Avatar
SatinBlack03
SatinBlack03 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have your exact same year/engine/2wd and 3.73
I have a bbk 65mm TB, Doug Thorley long tubes, 3" piping, Flomaster, 5 Star 91 performance tune and I get around 16 to the gallon and I don't drive slow at all.
 
  #20  
Old 08-20-2018, 03:32 PM
TurboCowboy's Avatar
TurboCowboy
TurboCowboy is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I am getting about 15+ so far with a 2001 F250 CC SB 4x4.. I do a lot of hypermiling with Honda Insights, so I use what I have learned back to the truck. I have a Scangauge so I can see instantaneous MPG and trip MPG. Tires pumped up to sidewall cold PSI, 55 mph max, accelerate down hill and let off uphill (or at least maintain steady throttle down and up hill, let speed fall off), coast as much as possible, avoid hard braking. When accelerating, allow the tranny to shift at about 2k rpm and get into over drive before 45 mph. Find a slow semi and follow him at about 2 second to 3 seconds pace. I keep track of fuel mileage at ecomodder and fuelly for progress, make notes there.

You don't need fancy modifications to the truck. Keep the tailgate up, use lowest octane fuel. No need for pure-gas, E10 is fine. Takes practice (and a REAL driver) to get out of the racing red-light-to-red-light frame of mind, and into gas saving. Nascar's Carl Edwards hypermiled a Ford Fusion with Wayne Gerdes and set a world record... Ford Fusion MPG World Record

later
 
  #21  
Old 08-21-2018, 02:55 PM
D.Yaros's Avatar
D.Yaros
D.Yaros is offline
Senior User
Join Date: May 2015
Location: SE WI
Posts: 294
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Me thinks "crummy gas mileage" is just part of the package. My 2002 F250 SD 6.8L with 141K on the odometer has recorded gas mileages ranging from 5.79 to 16.36 depending on driving conditions, time of year and fate!
 
  #22  
Old 08-22-2018, 08:45 AM
brian42's Avatar
brian42
brian42 is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 7,056
Received 118 Likes on 78 Posts
In addition to the tonneau cover and slowing down that have already been mentioned I will throw in getting a harder compound highway tire along with sticking to stock tire size.

I live down south in San Diego and drive 65 mph on the freeway. On my 30 mile commute to work I might pass one person. I get about 14 mpg overall and my head isn't on a swivel looking for Johnny Law.

I dumped my stock sized 265/75-16 tires when the tread ran out and went to 285/75-16 all-terrain tires... -1 mpg overall.

If I drive 70 mph on the freeway instead of 65 mph... -1 mpg overall.

If I drive 75 mph on the freeway instead of 65 mph... -2 mpg overall.

I also have a fiberglass tonneau on the back.

In the end, though, it's still a 4 ton truck where aerodynamics were probably not in the engineer's top 5 things to consider when designing the Superduty.
 
  #23  
Old 08-22-2018, 12:27 PM
Batman7777's Avatar
Batman7777
Batman7777 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Real MPG for a 6.7L... I am getting -> 11-12 city .... 17-18 hwy
No load other than say ~350 lbs in the cab (2 people, other stuff, etc) and truck bed (various stuff with a 26.5k Reese hitch (150 lbs). Total Cargo.. about 800 lbs
 
  #24  
Old 08-22-2018, 01:25 PM
Batman7777's Avatar
Batman7777
Batman7777 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Possibly double fuel mileage performance by eliminating all of the junk hanging on the motor.
Also cut the purchase cost by thousands by doing the same.

I've heard 1960 cars got 30 mpg highway before all of the emission stuff was added. Nobody knows just how better cars and trucks would perform and save, save, save fuel.
 
  #25  
Old 08-22-2018, 04:07 PM
super 6.8's Avatar
super 6.8
super 6.8 is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Southern KS
Posts: 1,357
Received 68 Likes on 49 Posts
Originally Posted by Batman7777
Possibly double fuel mileage performance by eliminating all of the junk hanging on the motor.
Also cut the purchase cost by thousands by doing the same.

I've heard 1960 cars got 30 mpg highway before all of the emission stuff was added. Nobody knows just how better cars and trucks would perform and save, save, save fuel.
That is the most ignorant thing I think I've read on this forum.
 
  #26  
Old 08-22-2018, 08:53 PM
wizkid00104's Avatar
wizkid00104
wizkid00104 is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 3,041
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
There are a lot of good suggestions here but you have to remember you are driving a 3-3.5 ton brick through the air at 75mph and that takes a lot of energy. The laws of physics don't lie. These trucks were designed to work not to be easy at the pump.
  1. You could look into a Gear Vendors overdrive unit. But they are expensive and it would take quite a while to get a return on the investment. See here: Gear Vendors Under/Overdrive Ford Truck-Car-Van 2-Wheel Drive 4-Speed and 5-Speed Automatics.
  2. Higher air pressure in the tires will help some.
  3. 5star tuning on an economy tune could help.
  4. Put a regular air filter back in. It has been discussed a lot on here that a high flow air filter is a fancy way of saying it does stop as much debris as a regular filter. Your gains here are negligible unless the engine RPMs are very very high.
  5. Perhaps a nice set of headers and exhaust like a Banks kit could help with a tune. It will free up exhaust restriction.
  6. Lowering the truck could help aerodynamics and reduce drag.
  7. Buy a cheap beater car and use it for fuel economy. You could save a fortune on fuel and maintenance on your truck. Use the truck when you need a truck. You could get a relatively quick return on investment here.
 
  #27  
Old 08-23-2018, 09:34 PM
Thor'sHammer's Avatar
Thor'sHammer
Thor'sHammer is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,027
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Originally Posted by SatinBlack03
I have your exact same year/engine/2wd and 3.73
I have a bbk 65mm TB, Doug Thorley long tubes, 3" piping, Flomaster, 5 Star 91 performance tune and I get around 16 to the gallon and I don't drive slow at all.
Are your tires stock size? If not, your speedometer is likely off and giving erroneous readings for MPG. Mine had 34.8" tires on it from when it was new and the speedo wasn't recalibrated until it had 168K on it. I calculated the truck had actually more than 184k on it by that point, just from the difference in tire size. I then applied that 10% difference to the MPG and it was actually getting closer to 6 than 8 MPG.

I had a '99 F350 with the weak-*** 190HP (at the wheels) V10. Throttle bodies, headers, exhaust, tuners with custom dyno performance tunes.... Nothing made any difference other than a gear reduction. I jumped from 3.73 to 4.88 on 34.8" tires and jumped in MPG from 6 unloaded to 9. And even then, the truck didn't have enough power to tow anything over 8k. I was lucky enough to be able to purchase the KB supercharger when it came out and installed it along with PI heads from an RV engine. Even then, with proper tuning, it still failed. ridiculously.
 
  #28  
Old 08-23-2018, 09:35 PM
Misky6.0's Avatar
Misky6.0
Misky6.0 is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ouray, CO
Posts: 5,419
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
Slow down, anticipate lights turning red and slow in advance, go easy on the gas pedal from a stop.
It isn't fun to drive that way though.

Sadly, you can save, save, save for 3/4 of a tank and then in one quick burst of speed to pass a truck undo all the savings.
My '99 F350 4wd got 16 mpg going on the highway at 65 mph 3 hrs each way. But 11 mph is my normal per tank around town, up and down the mountain driving.
My wife's '04 v8 4wd explorer gets about the same with our rural off pavement roads.
 
  #29  
Old 08-24-2018, 08:31 AM
finn's Avatar
finn
finn is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Upper penninsula
Posts: 583
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
Nobody is going to run over an 8000 lb pickup because it’s driving 65 mph on the freeway. Stay in the proper lane and you’ll be fine, and your mpg will magically increase.

ditch the pos air filter and put the factory one back on.
 
  #30  
Old 08-24-2018, 10:01 AM
brian42's Avatar
brian42
brian42 is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 7,056
Received 118 Likes on 78 Posts
Originally Posted by Misky6.0
...go easy on the gas pedal from a stop.
Staying under 2K RPM should make a noticeable improvement.

The problem is staying under 2K RPM until you get to cruising speed.
 


Quick Reply: Any way to get better mileage?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:40 AM.