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Old 08-14-2018, 11:48 AM
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I am also from Michigan. I have a 10k lbs bumper pull camper and a 17 F350 6.2L with the 4:30. I've played around with the gas mileage at several different speeds. Setting the cruise on I-94 at 70 mph, I get 15 mpg, setting the cruise at 82 mph gets about 11 mpg and towing the camper at 65 mph gets about 9 mpg. I've towed from Flint up to Boyne mostly on I-75, again at 65 mph, and get about 8 mpg and then I've driven that same route with no trailer following someone going 85+ mph and gotten about 7 mpg. Most Michiganders know of the slight hills on I-75 around West Branch, and my setup while towing under cruise control pulled up that hill mostly in 5th gear and slipped down into 4th or 3rd to get back up to speed because of the lag with cruise control. Most of the trip on I-75 while towing it stays in 6th gear with the occasional drop to 5th gear, I've never found the need to lock out 6th. Very happy with the 6.2L, no regrets.
Also I noticed in your signature you used to have a 15 F150 3.5...how did that compare towing to your F350? Did you tow same size trailer with each?
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:14 PM
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Great info man...you make the same drive as me when towing. For refference Im towing a 32ft TT 7500lb range with my 16 F150 max tow 3.5l. I get around 9mpg towing at 70mph up 75. As low as 8.5 and as high as 9.5 on the computer. Hand calculated it always seems to be about .4-.5mpg less then computer. If I do 80 cruise with a dirt bike in the bed I get around 19mpg on the highway up to west branch. Im in 6th most the time (1800 rpm range) even slight climbs and bigger climbs jumps into 5th (2300 range), and biggger climbs 4( 2800 rpm range). Did you consider the 3.73s at all?

Any bump steer on your truck at all?

I did consider the 3.73s but never test drove it, so can't tell you my opinion on the difference. I read a lot on this forum and decided to get the 4.30, and when I tow, the truck gets up to speed on the freeway just fine. Also, I do get some bump steer on big bumps or pot holes but the 15 F150 I had would have the rear end skip around on the same spots. I've had a few that scared the crap out of me when it happens on a curve on the freeway, but generally it's a pretty smooth ride.
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by barry1me
Also I noticed in your signature you used to have a 15 F150 3.5...how did that compare towing to your F350? Did you tow same size trailer with each?

I did pull the same trailer with the F150 and that's why I now have the F350. The F150 never felt under-powered with my camper but the ride was usually white knuckled. I put timbrens on the F150 and it helped level it out, but it just didn't feel planted and I had a lot of sway. It was never comfortable to drive over about 60 mph. I didn't have the max tow package on the F150 and I figured out after towing a few times that I was over the axle rating and the payload rating. I still use a WD hitch with the F350 and it is so stable I can drive with 2 fingers on the steering wheel.
 
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No one ever mentions the added safety benefit of the additional 700+ pounds of engine in front of you with the diesel. Or the less volatile fuel inherent with diesel. Sure it cost about $9000 more, but resale historically has been higher. And really for the private owner that has the means to purchase a $60,000+ truck, does a few hundred more dollars per year for maintenance matter that much? You buy a truck to haul or tow...considerably more horsepower and over double the torque...seriously most of us prefer the diesel!
You bring up a great point. My slightly used 6.2L (8,000 miles) at $50,000 was a lot more manageable of a purchase than a $60,000+ truck when you add in taxes, ect. It allowed me to purchase a 13,600# deck over trailer to upgrade over my equipment trailer (perfect towing/payload match for my truck). Alternatively, I could have got an XLT diesel for the same as a Lariat gas (to keep prices equivalent). Wow, those decisions have paid off! Just for fun and to reminisce, I looked at some new truck prices at local dealers now that I am almost a year into this truck. $72,000 for a 6.7L Lariat still has been shaking my head; just couldn't do it (and a slightly used diesel scares me; why did they trade it?).


 
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Originally Posted by amartz02
I did pull the same trailer with the F150 and that's why I now have the F350. The F150 never felt under-powered with my camper but the ride was usually white knuckled. I put timbrens on the F150 and it helped level it out, but it just didn't feel planted and I had a lot of sway. It was never comfortable to drive over about 60 mph. I didn't have the max tow package on the F150 and I figured out after towing a few times that I was over the axle rating and the payload rating. I still use a WD hitch with the F350 and it is so stable I can drive with 2 fingers on the steering wheel.
so this is interesting. I only tow a 7500lb trailer but mine is max tow package. I think my payload rating is like 1900lb range. I hardly ever get sway...but do get a little push sometime if a big truck/suv goes past me on the highway...no where near as bad as any other half ton I have owned in the past. Curious what your payload rating is on the 350...serious capacity being gas!
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 03:04 PM
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No regrets at all. The 6.2 still surprises me with how much power it has. The spare payload and probably slightly better ride is a bonus. Pulls my 11,200 GVWR camper very well. It is highly unlikely I will ever own a diesel truck, just not enough of a gap in performance with the big power of the gas engines.
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 03:05 PM
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so this is interesting. I only tow a 7500lb trailer but mine is max tow package. I think my payload rating is like 1900lb range. I hardly ever get sway...but do get a little push sometime if a big truck/suv goes past me on the highway...no where near as bad as any other half ton I have owned in the past. Curious what your payload rating is on the 350...serious capacity being gas!
Sticker on the door says 3,972 lbs. I have a roll up tonneau cover at about 200 lbs, a 5 bike thule rack over the bed at about 50 lbs., 5 bikes weigh probably 200 lbs, 5 inflatable paddleboards and gear weigh about 200 lbs and the family adds roughly 650 lbs. and the trailer tongue weight is about 1,100 lbs. I still have over 1,500 lbs of payload.
 
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No regrets for me with the 6.2 gas. I personally would not own a newer diesel. The extra costs and everything else that goes along with a modern diesel is not worth it to me. My gasser tows everything I have with ease.
 
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Only regret was holding on the the Tundra for so long!
After towing TT and hauling tractor with Tundra the queasy stomach and white knuckles just took me over the edge to deal with it.
Now, I just grin and haul! Will not enter into gasser vs. oil burner debate it's a personal thing to each their own need.
But second year of the new gen SD and am just looking for a reason to hook up trailer and go shred pastures now!
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 05:02 PM
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I moved to the 6.2 from a 5.4 09 F150; first I moved to a 2011 250 XLT w/6.2 and then on to my current 2017 F250 w/6.2. I only tow my Jeep on a car hauler, so not a lot of weight, but the entire platform is a dream to tow with, and to just drive for that matter. I suspect if I end up with a two jeep hauler for my and my son's Jeep, I will still keep the 17 w/6.2.
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by barry1me
so this is interesting. I only tow a 7500lb trailer but mine is max tow package. I think my payload rating is like 1900lb range. I hardly ever get sway...but do get a little push sometime if a big truck/suv goes past me on the highway...no where near as bad as any other half ton I have owned in the past. Curious what your payload rating is on the 350...serious capacity being gas!

Lots of us from mitten on here it seems. I had a '13 f150, fx4 with the hd package as well. It towed my GVWR 7800# TT with little sway and no real problems on I-75. I did get blown around approaching mackinaw on what i thought wasn't a windy day. Talk about white knuckle. The payload in my truck was 1500# which I am sure that I was close to using all of it, wife, dogs, bikes, etc.

I just bought a 6.2, 3.73 F350 XLT. I must say I am loving the truck, I thought about the diesel but just couldn't justify it. My payload is 4169#! I haven't been able to tow with it yet, but I am looking forward to towing instead of sort of dreading it.
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:45 PM
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Yes, sometimes.

The 6.2 has been a great engine, it's never been unable to do what I've asked, but towing my 7500 lb TT it leaves a little to be desired.

The fuel economy is the major irritant. 7.8-8.5 is standard on the interstate, sometimes in the 9 MPG range when driving on two lanes. This means I get ~280 miles before starting to look for places to stop. On the good side, the 6.2 has a fantastic exhaust note and when cruising along at 3500 RPM it sounds like a sweet song, not a wheezing engine.

Resale is the second irritant. I almost traded on a 2018 Dmax last week, the dealer offered 43k on the trade. He said if it was the 6.7 he'd give me 51k, so there's the difference in the purchase price right away.

I strongly discount the comments about 6.7 durability, I see dozens of these on the road daily and haven't yet talked to anyone with a problem. The 6.0 and 6.4 is a different story.
 
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:36 PM
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Yes, sometimes.

The 6.2 has been a great engine, it's never been unable to do what I've asked, but towing my 7500 lb TT it leaves a little to be desired.

The fuel economy is the major irritant. 7.8-8.5 is standard on the interstate, sometimes in the 9 MPG range when driving on two lanes. This means I get ~280 miles before starting to look for places to stop. On the good side, the 6.2 has a fantastic exhaust note and when cruising along at 3500 RPM it sounds like a sweet song, not a wheezing engine.

Resale is the second irritant. I almost traded on a 2018 Dmax last week, the dealer offered 43k on the trade. He said if it was the 6.7 he'd give me 51k, so there's the difference in the purchase price right away.

I strongly discount the comments about 6.7 durability, I see dozens of these on the road daily and haven't yet talked to anyone with a problem. The 6.0 and 6.4 is a different story.
Resale is all relative. Yeah the guy would have gave you 8k more. You would have paid over 9k for diesel option buying a new diesel. So you would have lost a grand if you were trading in a diesel. I have looked up my 6.2 truck on NADA for grins as it is a year old. I then changed the spec to a diesel. My truck only has 5k miles on it. NADA only gives about 7k more if equipped with diesel. So one year later and lost 2k according to them. At best you break even on your "investment" of buying a diesel if you trade early and often. So your trade in value was probably on point cause you didn't spend the extra 9k for the diesel. All I can say is buy them right and it wont feel like you're taking a bath on trade. To the OP I came from a Ram 6.4 hemi 4.10 gears to my f250 6.2 4.30 gears. Ford wins hands down if every category except suspension. Ram coils on the 3/4tons are nice IMO. The rest is mediocre. I tow a 10k 38ft TT. Gets 8-8.5mpg pulling. Last tank unloaded with some highway miles on it and country road driving is at 14mpg. I also have a CCLB 4x4 with luxurious 48 gal tank. Fuel range is no problem. Good luck in your decision cant go wrong either way you decide. Diesel or gas. Oh yeah and I have no regrets getting the 6.2.
 
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These trucks are dang expensive, I've seen houses cost less. the thought of the F350 with the 6.7 with options I wanted versus a F250/6.2 - and the F250 had ample payload reserve to pull our 5ver. With the price diff, I can buy a very nice ATV, and I luv the sound of that 6.2 exhaust.. I enjoy having the 6.2 and a few more toys..
I can see the need for a 6.7 in some cases, but I see a lot of them towing nothing, and not earning there keep. That's a lot of money to spend on power never used, unless you drive over 25K miles a year, and keep it forever.
 
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the 2011 & current model 6.2 is very different, your comments don't mean much..
 


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