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Old 08-06-2018, 09:53 PM
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I don't care for the new camo paint option.
 
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they really need to do something about the hangnail looking front airdam thingy
 
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:26 PM
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I don't see a ton of difference from the current style. I'm thinking slightly revised grill, maybe taillight and headlight style. Probably keeping most of the sheet metal from current production. Kind of like the switch from 2004 to 2005 super duties.
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 05:25 AM
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Its so hard to really tell anything. Manufacturers go to great lengths to conceal new model technologies. Before the 1st aluminum F-150's and SD's came, Ford went as far as making the old body styles in aluminum to test weight handling etc, These trucks could drive out in the open, and very few know they were new alloy trucks, vs the then current trucks.
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:09 AM
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Looks like they're going to continue with the hideous "c" shaped headlights. DAMN IT!
Hopefully, they follow the F-150 LED piping and surround each headlight. The current C style piping is just plain hideous.
The grille looks similar to the 2008-2010 chrome package grille.
Aside from grille, headlights hopefully and tail lights and 1000 tq. engine, it looks to be the same as before.
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by George C
Hopefully, they follow the F-150 LED piping and surround each headlight. The current C style piping is just plain hideous.
The grille looks similar to the 2008-2010 chrome package grille.
Aside from grille, headlights hopefully and tail lights and 1000 tq. engine, it looks to be the same as before.
Each is own. I personally like the C shape on the super duties and for some reason the f150's lights look cheap to me.
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:40 AM
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Interesting spy shots. But 2020 is only going to be a "refresh" and not a clean sheet design like 2017 was. Think 2017 vs 2018 F-150. The changes there included new grilles and headlights, very slight changes to the taillights, slight tailgate change, rim changes, and engine / transmission changes.

I think the 2020 Super Duty will be similar. New grille and revised headlights, maybe new wheels, maybe new taillights. More importantly will be and updated gas engine and probably more torque from the diesel. I'm guessing the 10-speed transmission will debut on gas only.

For me, its the interior that needs the most work. RAM and GM have improved their interiors. Ford's interior is ergonomic and looks OK, but materials quality is very poor overall. Even on a budget, there is plenty of room around the main display to stretch it to 10" from 8".
 
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Originally Posted by troverman
Interesting spy shots. But 2020 is only going to be a "refresh" and not a clean sheet design like 2017 was. Think 2017 vs 2018 F-150. The changes there included new grilles and headlights, very slight changes to the taillights, slight tailgate change, rim changes, and engine / transmission changes.

I think the 2020 Super Duty will be similar. New grille and revised headlights, maybe new wheels, maybe new taillights. More importantly will be and updated gas engine and probably more torque from the diesel. I'm guessing the 10-speed transmission will debut on gas only.

For me, its the interior that needs the most work. RAM and GM have improved their interiors. Ford's interior is ergonomic and looks OK, but materials quality is very poor overall. Even on a budget, there is plenty of room around the main display to stretch it to 10" from 8".
Ram interior I completely agree they are killing it on the inside. Gm not so much at least the pics and videos I've seen of the 2019 chevy and gmc trucks. But yes Ford needs to step up their game.
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 11:54 AM
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There is a fleet preview guide over on the fleet side of ford.com that mentioned a F450 Regular Cab pickup as well as availability of the 5W Prep Package on 2WD models. It seemed that this was to be for 2019, but the current order guide doesn't reflect either.

That F450 RC has a finned differential cover on the M300 axle. The current F450 pickup doesn't have this unless it is a recent running change. I'll be finding that out soon as my F450 is currently making its way to me on a train.

Furthermore, the new gas engine is a 7.3L, we have known this for a while. We also have known for a while that the 6.2L isn't going anywhere. It's amazing that the idiots at Autoblog are incapable of basic research.
 
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The spoiler is probably just extra camo to throw people off
That is a real possibility...
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:17 PM
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Where is the black thingy on the front passenger side of every (non reg cab super duty) I have ever seen. (2019 now has sharkfin if you get wifi)...

 
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Old 08-07-2018, 07:20 PM
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There is a fleet preview guide over on the fleet side of ford.com that mentioned a F450 Regular Cab pickup as well as availability of the 5W Prep Package on 2WD models.
I am guessing the availability of a 450 reg cab is 90% the ability to hold "class leading" towing numbers title...
 
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RPFB
There is a fleet preview guide over on the fleet side of ford.com that mentioned a F450 Regular Cab pickup as well as availability of the 5W Prep Package on 2WD models. It seemed that this was to be for 2019, but the current order guide doesn't reflect either.

That F450 RC has a finned differential cover on the M300 axle. The current F450 pickup doesn't have this unless it is a recent running change. I'll be finding that out soon as my F450 is currently making its way to me on a train.

Furthermore, the new gas engine is a 7.3L, we have known this for a while. We also have known for a while that the 6.2L isn't going anywhere. It's amazing that the idiots at Autoblog are incapable of basic research.
I heard a different rumor that the new 7.3 would replace the 6.2 and 6.8 do you have a link to any facts that say the 6.2 is staying around and the 6.8 is gone ? you say these things about the motors like their facts please provide proof.
 
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Originally Posted by supeRobertduty


I heard a different rumor that the new 7.3 would replace the 6.2 and 6.8 do you have a link to any facts that say the 6.2 is staying around and the 6.8 is gone ? you say these things about the motors like their facts please provide proof.
not sure about facts but the leaked sheet shows the 6.2 stays

they are running 5 engine options on the 150 platform now... 3 seems perfectly reasonable for the 3/4 and up lines

6.2 is capable for many 3/4 applications and is trusted. OTOH, 6.2 is understandably only in something like 20% of 350s. That 20% number is kind of a risk as emissions/fuel/tech costs could skyrocket even more. For the 250/350 line I think it is mostly an experimental line/marketing (that number isn't a coincidence). It will take multiple years of proof to get many diesel owners to even consider a switch.

 
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:20 AM
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The 2017+ 6.2L is quite a bit better than the 2011-2016 version. +25lb-ft and peak torque at 700RPM lower. Drive a 350 cab & chassis dump truck with the 6.2L vs a Chevy 3500 cab and chassis dump truck with the 6.0L...the 6.2L is already a way more powerful engine. A 7.3L gas V8 would be even nicer.
 


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