2020 Superduty Spied
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#19
Its so hard to really tell anything. Manufacturers go to great lengths to conceal new model technologies. Before the 1st aluminum F-150's and SD's came, Ford went as far as making the old body styles in aluminum to test weight handling etc, These trucks could drive out in the open, and very few know they were new alloy trucks, vs the then current trucks.
#20
The grille looks similar to the 2008-2010 chrome package grille.
Aside from grille, headlights hopefully and tail lights and 1000 tq. engine, it looks to be the same as before.
#21
Originally Posted by George C
Hopefully, they follow the F-150 LED piping and surround each headlight. The current C style piping is just plain hideous.
The grille looks similar to the 2008-2010 chrome package grille.
Aside from grille, headlights hopefully and tail lights and 1000 tq. engine, it looks to be the same as before.
The grille looks similar to the 2008-2010 chrome package grille.
Aside from grille, headlights hopefully and tail lights and 1000 tq. engine, it looks to be the same as before.
#22
Interesting spy shots. But 2020 is only going to be a "refresh" and not a clean sheet design like 2017 was. Think 2017 vs 2018 F-150. The changes there included new grilles and headlights, very slight changes to the taillights, slight tailgate change, rim changes, and engine / transmission changes.
I think the 2020 Super Duty will be similar. New grille and revised headlights, maybe new wheels, maybe new taillights. More importantly will be and updated gas engine and probably more torque from the diesel. I'm guessing the 10-speed transmission will debut on gas only.
For me, its the interior that needs the most work. RAM and GM have improved their interiors. Ford's interior is ergonomic and looks OK, but materials quality is very poor overall. Even on a budget, there is plenty of room around the main display to stretch it to 10" from 8".
I think the 2020 Super Duty will be similar. New grille and revised headlights, maybe new wheels, maybe new taillights. More importantly will be and updated gas engine and probably more torque from the diesel. I'm guessing the 10-speed transmission will debut on gas only.
For me, its the interior that needs the most work. RAM and GM have improved their interiors. Ford's interior is ergonomic and looks OK, but materials quality is very poor overall. Even on a budget, there is plenty of room around the main display to stretch it to 10" from 8".
#23
Interesting spy shots. But 2020 is only going to be a "refresh" and not a clean sheet design like 2017 was. Think 2017 vs 2018 F-150. The changes there included new grilles and headlights, very slight changes to the taillights, slight tailgate change, rim changes, and engine / transmission changes.
I think the 2020 Super Duty will be similar. New grille and revised headlights, maybe new wheels, maybe new taillights. More importantly will be and updated gas engine and probably more torque from the diesel. I'm guessing the 10-speed transmission will debut on gas only.
For me, its the interior that needs the most work. RAM and GM have improved their interiors. Ford's interior is ergonomic and looks OK, but materials quality is very poor overall. Even on a budget, there is plenty of room around the main display to stretch it to 10" from 8".
I think the 2020 Super Duty will be similar. New grille and revised headlights, maybe new wheels, maybe new taillights. More importantly will be and updated gas engine and probably more torque from the diesel. I'm guessing the 10-speed transmission will debut on gas only.
For me, its the interior that needs the most work. RAM and GM have improved their interiors. Ford's interior is ergonomic and looks OK, but materials quality is very poor overall. Even on a budget, there is plenty of room around the main display to stretch it to 10" from 8".
#24
There is a fleet preview guide over on the fleet side of ford.com that mentioned a F450 Regular Cab pickup as well as availability of the 5W Prep Package on 2WD models. It seemed that this was to be for 2019, but the current order guide doesn't reflect either.
That F450 RC has a finned differential cover on the M300 axle. The current F450 pickup doesn't have this unless it is a recent running change. I'll be finding that out soon as my F450 is currently making its way to me on a train.
Furthermore, the new gas engine is a 7.3L, we have known this for a while. We also have known for a while that the 6.2L isn't going anywhere. It's amazing that the idiots at Autoblog are incapable of basic research.
That F450 RC has a finned differential cover on the M300 axle. The current F450 pickup doesn't have this unless it is a recent running change. I'll be finding that out soon as my F450 is currently making its way to me on a train.
Furthermore, the new gas engine is a 7.3L, we have known this for a while. We also have known for a while that the 6.2L isn't going anywhere. It's amazing that the idiots at Autoblog are incapable of basic research.
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#28
There is a fleet preview guide over on the fleet side of ford.com that mentioned a F450 Regular Cab pickup as well as availability of the 5W Prep Package on 2WD models. It seemed that this was to be for 2019, but the current order guide doesn't reflect either.
That F450 RC has a finned differential cover on the M300 axle. The current F450 pickup doesn't have this unless it is a recent running change. I'll be finding that out soon as my F450 is currently making its way to me on a train.
Furthermore, the new gas engine is a 7.3L, we have known this for a while. We also have known for a while that the 6.2L isn't going anywhere. It's amazing that the idiots at Autoblog are incapable of basic research.
That F450 RC has a finned differential cover on the M300 axle. The current F450 pickup doesn't have this unless it is a recent running change. I'll be finding that out soon as my F450 is currently making its way to me on a train.
Furthermore, the new gas engine is a 7.3L, we have known this for a while. We also have known for a while that the 6.2L isn't going anywhere. It's amazing that the idiots at Autoblog are incapable of basic research.
#29
they are running 5 engine options on the 150 platform now... 3 seems perfectly reasonable for the 3/4 and up lines
6.2 is capable for many 3/4 applications and is trusted. OTOH, 6.2 is understandably only in something like 20% of 350s. That 20% number is kind of a risk as emissions/fuel/tech costs could skyrocket even more. For the 250/350 line I think it is mostly an experimental line/marketing (that number isn't a coincidence). It will take multiple years of proof to get many diesel owners to even consider a switch.
#30
The 2017+ 6.2L is quite a bit better than the 2011-2016 version. +25lb-ft and peak torque at 700RPM lower. Drive a 350 cab & chassis dump truck with the 6.2L vs a Chevy 3500 cab and chassis dump truck with the 6.0L...the 6.2L is already a way more powerful engine. A 7.3L gas V8 would be even nicer.