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Old 08-02-2018, 08:35 AM
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Left over 2017ís vs 2018 or 2019

So we went looking yesterday at super duties and came across a big brother of our 150 but itís a 2017.

I went in just to ask pricing questions and was given about $4300 off sticker and then minus rebates. I thought that only $4300 off sticker wasnít much since itís a 2017 MY. This was a F250 Lariat diesel btw. Sticker of about $72,500.

So so my question is what have any of you been buying these trucks for? Again I didnít try to negotiate a lower price as of yet just asked what would be the price so Iím sure I can get some more off. But looking at what is out there within 200 miles of me I feel I can find an even better deal elsewhere. But the other thing is we are trying to finance it through ford with our business since it doesnít report to personal credit that way. And when you finance it with ford you lose some of the rebates ($5500 down to $2750)
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:44 AM
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there are tons of pricing threads here. best available dealer price won't differ much from MY to MY - you should be able to negotiate down to invoice, perhaps a bit below that. For one that has been on the lot a long time, I would expect to be able to get about 2% off invoice, which is almost all of their profit. That part is up to you, though - you have to ask for it and stick to your guns. What *should* be better on the 2017 are rebates from Ford. Overall that 2017 should be a bit less than an 18 or 19.
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by djjoshuad View Post
there are tons of pricing threads here. best available dealer price won't differ much from MY to MY - you should be able to negotiate down to invoice, perhaps a bit below that. For one that has been on the lot a long time, I would expect to be able to get about 2% off invoice, which is almost all of their profit. That part is up to you, though - you have to ask for it and stick to your guns. What *should* be better on the 2017 are rebates from Ford. Overall that 2017 should be a bit less than an 18 or 19.
I was figuring invoice or slightly below as well plus rebates.

2018 or 19 would be a bit more since rebates arenít as high BUT your buying a truck that is current year or coming MY vs one that is soon to be 2 years old regardless how you look at it I guess lol
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:56 AM
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I was figuring invoice or slightly below as well plus rebates.

2018 or 19 would be a bit more since rebates arenít as high BUT your buying a truck that is current year or coming MY vs one that is soon to be 2 years old regardless how you look at it I guess lol
yeah totally agree, but then we all at least expect that these trucks will do many years and many miles on the road under our feet so... what's one or two MY right off the top? haha. I think if the rebates are right and that's the truck you want, nothing should stop you from getting an amazing machine for an amazing price. GL with your decision
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 10:46 AM
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There are NO rebates or incentives for a 2019. Thousands are beginning to be on dealer lots. Same as 18’s, why in the world Ford offers nothing on 19’s is beyond me.
i have a 19’ custom order at the dealership as we speak. No reason for me to get a bill of sale until Ford updates their website with an incentive for me to do so.
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 11:07 AM
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There are NO rebates or incentives for a 2019. Thousands are beginning to be on dealer lots. Same as 18ís, why in the world Ford offers nothing on 19ís is beyond me.
i have a 19í custom order at the dealership as we speak. No reason for me to get a bill of sale until Ford updates their website with an incentive for me to do so.
i know right lol.

I mean why why they donít offer even $1000 rebate is beyond me. You know they can give up some $$$
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 11:33 AM
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I wouldn’t touch the 17’. Soon to be 3 years old when the updated/refreshed truck w/ 10 speeds and probably 1000lbs of torque hits the ground in less than a year.
There isn’t enough of a good deal to offset that amount of depreciation.

My local dealer still has 6-7 17’s left on the lot. Not good.
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 11:40 AM
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I found a nice used 2017 20k miles but it was a Canadian truck. Does that matter at all? It seems to have almost every option possible too for like $55k.
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 11:58 AM
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I found a nice used 2017 20k miles but it was a Canadian truck. Does that matter at all? It seems to have almost every option possible too for like $55k.
nevermind once I looked at the car fax it should it had a minor accident... that must be why itís so cheap lol
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 04:21 PM
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i do think the 10 speed is worth waiting for, but then i also think I would give it a year or two to be sure that new trans is solid before i buy one. I'm about 99% sure it's not the same 10 speed they have elsewhere already in production. 1000 lbs of tq is meh. nice marketing but otherwise you'll never tell the difference between 935 and 1000. I had a job 1 2011 6.7 - one of the first off the line with the new engine. it was 735 and got flashed to 800. great! couldn't tell the difference.
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 04:32 PM
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Any one getting 11,000-13,000 off on 2017 Lariat?
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by djjoshuad View Post
i do think the 10 speed is worth waiting for, but then i also think I would give it a year or two to be sure that new trans is solid before i buy one. I'm about 99% sure it's not the same 10 speed they have elsewhere already in production. 1000 lbs of tq is meh. nice marketing but otherwise you'll never tell the difference between 935 and 1000. I had a job 1 2011 6.7 - one of the first off the line with the new engine. it was 735 and got flashed to 800. great! couldn't tell the difference.
Iím willing to try first year things...Transmissions arenít one of them.I agree with letting someone else be the Guinea pig on the 10 speed.I agree 100% with everything else you said.

I bought a left over 17 and couldnít be happier.With the 18/19ís being basically the same Truck I would do it again if I had the chance...But then again Iím cheap and got almost 15K off.
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 04:45 PM
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I found a nice used 2017 20k miles but it was a Canadian truck. Does that matter at all? It seems to have almost every option possible too for like $55k.
Saw this and your other post. I bought a Canadian truck, however it had a clean carfax. I even called Ford Canada and they ran a background on it for me before I pulled the trigger. 3 months driving it and couldnt be happier...saved a ton of $ and still under factory warranty. If there was a problem I'd be the first to post..so stay tuned.
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by F-250Ford View Post
Any one getting 11,000-13,000 off on 2017 Lariat?
I bought a 2018 Lariat Ultimate 6.2 at the end of June. Sticker price was 63K , they took almost 10K off plus 1K rebate. But i didn't get very much trade in on my 2006 5.4.
 
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Old 08-02-2018, 05:05 PM
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$55K for a 17 with 20K miles is NOT a good deal.

For reference, I picked up a 2017 F250 Diesel Lariat Ultimate with just about every option and paid $58,500 out the door (sticker price was $71,500). It had 4 miles on it. I bought it in June.
 
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