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i think the reason people talk about the cummings like it is gold plated best thing since sliced bread is because they refuse to admit they were wrong.
yes, a pure bone stock 5.9 is a decent engine and will run damn near forever. but so will a properly maintained 7.3
but once you start hopping it up they have a high failure rate just like any other hot rodded engine.
you can not expect a 600+ hp engine to last anywhere as long as a 250 HP engine will.
 
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i think the reason people talk about the cummings like it is gold plated best thing since sliced bread is because they refuse to admit they were wrong.
yes, a pure bone stock 5.9 is a decent engine and will run damn near forever. but so will a properly maintained 7.3
but once you start hopping it up they have a high failure rate just like any other hot rodded engine.
you can not expect a 600+ hp engine to last anywhere as long as a 250 HP engine will.
I believe the cummins reputation came mostly from the 160hp variant with rotary pump in the early generations. A pickup with that engine could last a long time, and get awesome fuel economy. I wouldn't be surprised to see those over a million miles. In fact many engines could last like that before the hp and tq war started.
 
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yup. the biggest problem with the 160 hp version was the rust bucket turd that was wrapped around it.
most fell out of the truck well before they ever saw 200-250k miles.

the same guys that gave me crap about buying ford 7.3 idi diesels instead of dodge cummings are still amazed when they hear my truck is still going strong 31 years and 495,000 miles later while their dodges have all have been recycled into japanese cars and sardine cans 15-20 years ago.
 
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yup. the biggest problem with the 160 hp version was the rust bucket turd that was wrapped around it.
most fell out of the truck well before they ever saw 200-250k miles.

the same guys that gave me crap about buying ford 7.3 idi diesels instead of dodge cummings are still amazed when they hear my truck is still going strong 31 years and 495,000 miles later while their dodges have all have been recycled into japanese cars and sardine cans 15-20 years ago.
I cant comment on the metal quality of the dodges, I know they rust out but fords rust out as well. If one is more rust prone than the other I didn't know that. I know truck wise the dodges seem to sometimes be a little less quality though.
495,000 is a lot of miles. I just bought one with 300,000km on it, 200,000 miles or so, and it doesn't seem to have much blowby and runs good. I had to get wheel arches cut out and new metal, and part of the rocker panel. Hopefully I'll get lots of years out of it.
 
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I think really something to consider is price where you live. Some areas one truck may hold a local unrealistic value.

for eg if we compare a stock ford 6.0 truck to a dodge 5.9 of same year, you can find a lot of nice 6.0 fords in really nice condition for cheap. A dodge with a 5.9 could have way more miles even double, beat up pretty bad, and cost a lot more. And places people pay the premiums thinking it's going to Last a million miles.
now granted a 5.9 cummins with the same miles as a ford 6.0 is a more desirable package, but how much?
were talking about a big price difference sometimes for a way more worn out truck.
Sure a 6.0 can cost thousands to bullet proof, a worn out dodge can cost even more if you're putting a worn out pile on the road. Cummins fans always justify it saying "million mile motor" but it just doesn't hold water.
 
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i stated that wrong. the dodges more fell apart than rotted apart. there just seems to be something with dodges up here in the northeast .they start loosing parts after around 5 years . tailgates, rocker panels, bottom 4 inches of the doors, cab corners, bed support crossmembers. pretty much the same as fords and GM products do, but it seems to happen about twice as fast with the dodges.
yes, my 88 is all rotted out, but it plowed snow for 28 years, and was a salt water rescue vehicle for 20 years. there were many times where it was in 4 foot of salt water doing flood rescue after storms where the bay/ocean water put half the town under water.
plus the 10 or so times i had to go out into the bay itself to do swamped vehicle recoveries.
you can only wash so much of the salt water out of the sheet meta.

i have a new bed on the truck already, and a new cab waiting to go on it in the spring.
when i pull the old cab off, i am going to reseal the engine and acid wash/ paint the front frame section. i already did the rear frame three years ago before the knee replacement
 
 
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