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Originally Posted by '88 E-350 View Post
https://www.bilstein.com/us/en/produ...stein-b8-5100/
https://www.bilstein.com/us/en/produ...stein-b6-4600/

They don't directly compare them, but it's strongly implied that the valving is different.

Users have reported feeling the difference with 5100s being 'stiffer', but just as smooth riding. From dissecting reviews my guess is that they have stiffer low speed valving with similar high speed valving compared to the 4600. I've never had an opportunity to do a fair comparison.

I installed a set of 5100 on a friend's lifted Cherokee and was initially concerned with how soft they felt, but driving through a few big dips they showed good control. They do great on-road at low and high speeds. For driving fast off-road they're too soft for my liking, but I run stuff to the limit. He's more normal and has no complaints. Low speed & crawling they do great. They're soft & comfy but without any looseness.

I put 4600 on the front of my Cherokee (junkyard find, no clue what car they were made for) and they're great. The shocks that were on it felt good, KYB I think, the 4600 are better. First time I got them really hot they seem to have softened up permanently, not positive, but they're still good. They were way hotter than most people will get their shocks, I'm surprised the paint didn't bubble. I basically ran the little grocery getter like it was a trophy truck. I've done it a few times since and they don't seem to change so either it was in my head or whatever changed was a one time thing.

I've played with shocks enough to realize that while I fully understand how they work, I don't know exactly how they make the magic happen. What I do know is that you generally get what you pay for. I've had bikes with high end stuff and 'standard' OEM stuff. The higher end ones are always more controlled and more comfortable. I had a Ducati 999 with the standard suspension and it felt really good for a stock bike. I then bought an S model with the factory installed Ohlins and it was spectacular. Riders who've switched the OE supplied "cheap" Ohlins with the 'better' Ohlins say it gets even better. I had a CBR1100 with standard stuff then bought one with a Penske shock, night & day. Less suspension travel over the same bumps/dips, more controlled in spirited riding, and much more comfortable cruising. That shock runs around $1,000 and it's not even the highest end one, crazy money for a little coil over shock absorber.

On the flip side of $, I put a set of KYB G2 on my Explorer and they're fantastic. They were scary cheap on Amazon, under $50 for all 4, but I decided to take a chance. My brother, who's about as discerning as I, immediately noticed how nice it rode. Sometimes you get lucky. KYB Excell-G on the front of my Excursion...way too soft, they feel like worn out shocks right out of the box. Not so lucky.
Perhaps you are right and I am wrong, it happens all the time.

When I purchased the 4600's vs. the 5100's years ago Bilstein told me they were nearly identical but the 5100 was for a lifted truck. Maybe I got in touch with a sales rep that was new to the job or something, I don't know.

Thank you for responding with more information and background rather than simply "not according to Bilstein".
 
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I switched from 5100's up front and Rancho 9000's out back to KYB Monomax all around and am very happy with them. I like not having to worry about valving out back and the ride is improved up front.
 
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My opinion,KYB Monomax will give a softer ride running empty,Bilstein's 4600 & Rancho RS 9000xl will give a more controlled ride loaded heavy,Our Rancho's have been performing well hauling a 4500lb camper since 2012.
 
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Originally Posted by crop harvester View Post
My opinion,KYB Monomax will give a softer ride running empty,Bilstein's 4600 & Rancho RS 9000xl will give a more controlled ride loaded heavy,Our Rancho's have been performing well hauling a 4500lb camper since 2012.
Im curious on what you base your opinion on regarding the shocks?
 
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Anyone else have a line on a cheaper price for 4-Rancho RS9000XL shocks than Trends Auto is offering me shipped to my door at $330?

What about the mail-in rebate Matt spoke about? anyone know about that?
 
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Originally Posted by Supercab View Post
Anyone else have a line on a cheaper price for 4-Rancho RS9000XL shocks than Trends Auto is offering me shipped to my door at $330?
That's a good price. I don't think you're going to beat that unless you find someone selling surplus out of their garage on eBay.

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What about the mail-in rebate Matt spoke about? anyone know about that?
This is the current promotion that Rancho is running: Promotions
 
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Originally Posted by Supercab View Post
Looking for some GOOD, HD shocks for my Late '99 F-350 crew cab 2 wheel drive DUALLY.

I'm looking at the Rancho 9000XL adjustable units-I like the adjustable idea though I most likely won't adjust them too much.

Suggestions? Opinions? Thanks Guys!
If you're not going to adjust them why pay for the feature? Just curious... The KYB MONOMAX I mentioned are $232 TYD, I'm not sure what Bilsteins would run.
 
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Even if you don't adjust them much you can set them to your liking.
 
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Originally Posted by Supercab View Post
Anyone else have a line on a cheaper price for 4-Rancho RS9000XL shocks than Trends Auto is offering me shipped to my door at $330?

What about the mail-in rebate Matt spoke about? anyone know about that?
If you adjust them just a few times to get the ride YOU want, I think they are worth their weight in shocks.

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If you're not going to adjust them why pay for the feature? Just curious... The KYB MONOMAX I mentioned are $232 TYD, I'm not sure what Bilsteins would run.

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Even if you don't adjust them much you can set the to your liking.
 
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NI8UZ5G/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NI8UZ5G/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you thought about going the 4600's route they are $281 now for all 4 corners at the link above. First world problems...
 
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Originally Posted by Sous View Post
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If you thought about going the 4600's route they are $281 now for all 4 corners at the link above. First world problems...
do you guys think that the 4600 would be suitable for a lot of Heavy Hauling?
 
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Originally Posted by jstihl View Post
do you guys think that the 4600 would be suitable for a lot of Heavy Hauling?
I know for a fact that the 4600's perform well unloaded and towing a 12K lbs 5th wheel around the country (recently sold the trailer). At least they perform well on my truck in both of those situations. Shocks can be very subjective though, so what I think works great may not be the same for you.

I have zero regrets about my choice for 4600 Bilsteins.
 
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Old 07-05-2018, 08:42 PM
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I know for a fact that the 4600's perform well unloaded and towing a 12K lbs 5th wheel around the country (recently sold the trailer). At least they perform well on my truck in both of those situations. Shocks can be very subjective though, so what I think works great may not be the same for you.

I have zero regrets about my choice for 4600 Bilsteins.
good to know, thanks sous. My truck still has OEM shocks with almost 200000 on them, I would imagine it's time to refresh the shocks
 
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If you get the Rancho 9000XLs, be sure to remove the adjustment ***** and grease up the insides. Mine have seized up from exposure to the elements. Good thing I managed to adjust them to the desired setting before they did.
 
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I tow at 11K 3-4 times a year, and have got 4600's all the way around, I love em.....In the RV community Rancho's and Bilsteins seem to be the Go-To's.... Good reviews for Both.
 

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