1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Coming from an OBS 7.3 to a NBS 7.3 question(s)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 06-19-2018, 11:57 PM
aqnhfd's Avatar
aqnhfd
aqnhfd is offline
Cross-Country
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Coming from an OBS 7.3 to a NBS 7.3 question(s)

Hey guys for the past couple years I've owned a 1997 F-350 with the 7.3 and ZF-5 manual 4x2 with 3.55 gears and 286k miles. Just recently I retired the OBS and welcomed a 1999 F-350 with the 7.3 and 4R100 4x4 and 3.73 gears with 220k miles into my household. The 1999 is lifted a pretty decent amount like towers over my OBS but with stock size tires. I've noticed a pretty large power difference right off the bat. My OBS seems to be a speed demon next to the 99. I understand I'm going to have more torque with the OBS 5 speed compared to the automatic, and also with the new truck being lifted on small tires. But is that all? Or am I missing something else. Both trucks are stock besides straight pipes, no chips or anything like that. I've also noticed a big sound difference between the 2, the 99 almost sounds greatly better than my OBS. I understand the 99 is intercooled with a wastegated turbo and also has split shot injectors compared to the OBS Powerstrokes single shot (or am I backwards?). Sorry for the long post i am just curious.
 

Last edited by aqnhfd; 06-19-2018 at 11:57 PM. Reason: Spelling
  #2  
Old 06-20-2018, 06:14 AM
Walleye Hunter's Avatar
Walleye Hunter
Walleye Hunter is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Douglassville, PA
Posts: 10,421
Received 888 Likes on 625 Posts
That post is short compared to some. '99 was a split year so you'll want to know if you have an E (early) or L(late). What's your build date? You are right on the injectors and wastegate but I can't tell you why the new one would be slower than the OBS. The best thing to do is get a diagnostics set up up and running so you can ensure that your truck is 100% and go from there. Does the NBS have any gauges? You can get an OBDII adapter and software is cheap or free depending on what platform you're running on your tablet(s).
 
  #3  
Old 06-20-2018, 06:19 AM
afmedic's Avatar
afmedic
afmedic is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,029
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
My e99 was a dog when I got it. No boost over 6-8 psi. Once i fixed my boost leaks it ran 10 times better!
 
  #4  
Old 06-20-2018, 06:22 AM
Tugly's Avatar
Tugly
Tugly is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Columbia River
Posts: 18,797
Received 111 Likes on 66 Posts
Same engine with more oomph, but the Superduty is a heavyweight. OBS gets better fuel economy because of the said weight difference.
 
  #5  
Old 06-20-2018, 09:19 AM
aqnhfd's Avatar
aqnhfd
aqnhfd is offline
Cross-Country
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
That post is short compared to some. '99 was a split year so you'll want to know if you have an E (early) or L(late). What's your build date? You are right on the injectors and wastegate but I can't tell you why the new one would be slower than the OBS. The best thing to do is get a diagnostics set up up and running so you can ensure that your truck is 100% and go from there. Does the NBS have any gauges? You can get an OBDII adapter and software is cheap or free depending on what platform you're running on your tablet(s).
I am trying to figure out if it's an E99 or L99. I believe the cab was repainted at one point because there is no door jam sticker. And I have the original receipt but the most that says again is just 1999. Any other ways of figuring it out?
 
  #6  
Old 06-20-2018, 09:37 AM
lpzd's Avatar
lpzd
lpzd is offline
Tuned
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Espanola New Mexico
Posts: 342
Received 37 Likes on 23 Posts
Does it have 2" or 3" intake manifold openings ? 3" late 99-03
 
  #7  
Old 06-20-2018, 09:52 AM
Walleye Hunter's Avatar
Walleye Hunter
Walleye Hunter is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Douglassville, PA
Posts: 10,421
Received 888 Likes on 625 Posts
Did the L99's have IAH? And I believe that the E's have the powerstroke emblem on the front fender and the L's have it on the door.
 
  #8  
Old 06-20-2018, 11:45 AM
lpzd's Avatar
lpzd
lpzd is offline
Tuned
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Espanola New Mexico
Posts: 342
Received 37 Likes on 23 Posts
yes L99 have IAH E99 does not.
i don't rely on door or fender badges , i have seen at least 2 L99 with fender badges
 
  #9  
Old 06-20-2018, 12:19 PM
brian42's Avatar
brian42
brian42 is online now
Lead Driver
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 7,056
Received 118 Likes on 78 Posts
Also check the intake piping to see if there's an intercooler. IIRC the early '99 uses the van turbo without an intercooler and the late '99 and up have an intercooler.
 
  #10  
Old 06-20-2018, 12:32 PM
afmedic's Avatar
afmedic
afmedic is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,029
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
My e99 is intercooled. Try using the vin yo get s build sheet. Itll have the build date
 
  #11  
Old 06-20-2018, 12:38 PM
aqnhfd's Avatar
aqnhfd
aqnhfd is offline
Cross-Country
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by afmedic
My e99 is intercooled. Try using the vin yo get s build sheet. Itll have the build date
I've been trying to find websites that have this. The only reliable one I know of is Ford ETIS but for some reason I am getting a garbage loading page on my phone.
 
  #12  
Old 06-20-2018, 12:49 PM
Jo7.3's Avatar
Jo7.3
Jo7.3 is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 829
Received 102 Likes on 80 Posts
Look at the front springs and see what shape the u-bolts are that hold the springs down. If they’re square, you have an early 99. If they’re round/semi-round, you have a late 99.


Edit: Since it has a lift kit, whoever put it on might’ve put whatever u-bolts he could find up front so that might not be the best way to tell the difference. The build date should be stamped on the drivers side valve cover though.
 
  #13  
Old 06-20-2018, 12:59 PM
brian42's Avatar
brian42
brian42 is online now
Lead Driver
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 7,056
Received 118 Likes on 78 Posts
Originally Posted by lpzd
i don't rely on door or fender badges , i have seen at least 2 L99 with fender badges
Originally Posted by afmedic
My e99 is intercooled.
I definitely learned something today. I thought these were two definite ways to tell the E and L apart.

I guess it's down to intake manifold diameter, AIH, and spring u-bolts if you can't find the build sheet/date.
 
  #14  
Old 06-20-2018, 01:47 PM
aqnhfd's Avatar
aqnhfd
aqnhfd is offline
Cross-Country
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by brian42
I definitely learned something today. I thought these were two definite ways to tell the E and L apart.

I guess it's down to intake manifold diameter, AIH, and spring u-bolts if you can't find the build sheet/date.
I have determined the truck is a L99 as the valve cover is stamped April of '99. And on the E99 intercooler chatter, both E99 7.3s I have driven prior to these were both intercooled, both built in mid or so '98
 
  #15  
Old 06-20-2018, 08:02 PM
Jo7.3's Avatar
Jo7.3
Jo7.3 is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Virginia
Posts: 829
Received 102 Likes on 80 Posts
Mine has a build date of 3/98 and is intercooled. So I'm pretty sure all early 99s are intercooled, just none of the OBS trucks are intercooled from the factory.
 


Quick Reply: Coming from an OBS 7.3 to a NBS 7.3 question(s)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:59 AM.