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Old 06-19-2018, 02:52 PM
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1963 F350 4X4 Napco, is it worth restoration?









I'm a new member here.

I may have your permission to warn you, because I wrote a long story here, so

I'll appreciate if you'll have the patience to read.

I need some recommendations and advices about my 1963 F350 4x4 Napco, which I dream to restore.

First of all I would say that I think itís the only piece we have in Israel, its pretty rare here.

So I'll need to import all the parts from the USA.(if I'm going to..)

The truck worked as a towing truck and it combined with a mechanical winch behind the cab. The bed is a lousy local built and I donít want to use it. So for now, I donít have a bed.

It stood since the 80' , I own it since mid 90'. I started the engine at 2006 and understood It has a hole that leaks water from inside the block. since then the truck stood.

Just lately I managed to make it papers back alive , so restoration is now can be acceptable(not sure reasonable).

I understand it's going to be a big investment of time and money, not sure it justify it, still I realy want to restore it. unlless you'll say it will be easier to buy one, and I'll explain:

It pretty much a piece of rust. Right side of the cab was burnt, the right door is pretty much ruined , no handles, no glass, all glasses of the cab, front windshield and rear window are broken, there's a huge hole at the cab roof(third of it), the seat/bench is ruined, the left mid cab seat frame is totally rotten and need to be restored specifically, that apart from rust that hugs the whole cab. One headlight is missing. So that's about the cab.

The engine: is a 6 in line engine 332 maybe, not sure about it. Last week I disassemble the oil samp. I poured water to the coolant system and noticed I have a leakage from cyl 1. after I disassembled the engine, I found a hole on the mid front of cyl 1. The engine block corks were rotten and after breaking it easily I saw I have buckets of rust inside the block, between the cyl'. So I guess I need an engine too, and I rather it going to be a V8, but which V8 ?, I need to fit it to the housing I have: a manual gearbox and a clutch.

So guys, should I throw this truck to metal recycling or is it worth something? And if it is, can I find all the parts I need ? accept bed which I m going to build myself.

Is it an option to find a complete cab for a truck like that? Instead of restore the one I got?

What would be the cost of parts I need here? (for now without my importing costs).

And again, Thanks for the patience, hopefully you'll give me some good advices. Ran.
 
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:29 AM
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I've never seen one for sale let alone in person...personally would save it if I could. very cool truck. I wouldn't mess with the floor if its rooted in too many places if you have the tools I would invest in the 61-64 full floor pan kit and rust proof the crap out off it, and then get a 64-66 roof.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:41 AM
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I don't have the expertise or experience (yet) to give too much advice here, but it definitely seems that you have the wherewithal to pursue this and I personally think it looks like a great and super unique project. All of the parts are pretty readily available (sometimes requires some patience and watching) in the US, but as long as you aren't in a big rush and are able to import from here, then I think you could get everything you need in due time and end up with a pretty fantastic 4x4 rig that you'll be proud of.
 
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:44 AM
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Thank you guys for all the comments
I must say that I'm concerned mostly about the cosmetics chalenges - finding the parts I need.
and I geuss that it will be a step by step project which I proud of it already.
I would appreciate your help give me an advice what should be the right engine to assemble in that truck.
at least for now I want to make it running in my backyard, pull it with the tractor in and out of my shop is not a great fun.
as I mentioned the original engine has a hole in one of the cyl. and Im not going to use it.
.I want to know which kind of V8 engine is common in those trucks and can be found easyly in the market.
, I found here in one of the local engine dealers, a v8 Ford , I dont have a clue what type it is, the dealer told me its a 5 liter and after I watch on google it lookes like a 302, I added some photos of it.
so is it a 302 and is it a good choise? no matter what engine it would be I will need to fit it to my manual gear box but that
would be next step, please your advice needed and interests me a lot
Tnx Ran




 

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Old 06-23-2018, 02:36 PM
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Definitely a low production model, even in the US, mainly because it has the Napco 4x4 conversion. IMO, the body is shot, it had a very hard life. A Napco enthusiast in the US might entertain the idea of fnding a clean F 350 2wd pickup cheap for a complete body swap onto the rare Napco 4x4 frame, but for anyone else its probably not worth the time and expense. Another item that is pretty rare is the special order 262 engine ( IMO, from the photo, note oil cap in center of valve cover ), but the hole in the cylinder pretty much ends the desirablility of that rare engine to just about everyone except the 262 enthusiasts ( a pretty small number also) who need it for parts.
 
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Definitely a low production model, even in the US, mainly because it has the Napco 4x4 conversion. IMO, the body is shot, it had a very hard life. A Napco enthusiast in the US might entertain the idea of fnding a clean F 350 2wd pickup cheap for a complete body swap onto the rare Napco 4x4 frame, but for anyone else its probably not worth the time and expense. Another item that is pretty rare is the special order 262 engine ( IMO, from the photo, note oil cap in center of valve cover ), but the hole in the cylinder pretty much ends the desirablility of that rare engine to just about everyone except the 262 enthusiasts ( a pretty small number also) who need it for parts.
rare Napco 4x4 frame???
I thought most conversions used a normal truck as a base, frame & body, and added the 4x4 parts to it. I cant see Napco making a new frame to put the Ford body on it.
So if the 4x4 parts were added to a base truck then I would find a F350 2wd pickup cheap for and swap the 4x4 parts on to it.
And if you find one with a v8 you would be ahead in the game.
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I see two problem attempting to restore this truck.

1) The OP lives in Israel. Where will he find parts for any 1961/66 truck in Europe or the Middle East?

South Africa would be a possibility, but whatever is still there will have RHD

2) The cost to fix this thing will be...at minimum 25,000 US dollars. Does the OP have this money?

I'd put it on ebay, hoping that someone in the US would buy it. 'Course, the cost to ship it will likely be more than it's worth.

And I don't agree that this is a low production model.

Since it has SRW's, it was probably sold new as a pickup, then at some point, the bed was removed, then the tow truck body was installed.
 
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2 View Post
rare Napco 4x4 frame???
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Let me clarify, rare 1 ton 4x4 Napco conversion to common 4x2 Ford F 350 frame. No data on numbers, but IMO, F 350 Napco's are very low production, much lower than factory F 250 4x4, and very much lower than factory F 100 4x4. But, as ND stated, it would cost a fortune to rebuild this one overseas.
 
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Be nice if a poster would do only one thread for the same question. Stu

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...storation.html
 
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Old 06-24-2018, 09:17 AM
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Tnx for all the responds guys ,I truely undertand the problems ahead and still going to keep it, no matter the costs are, cant sell a truck like that one
I know its going to be long and expensive but the plan is to do most of the project myself
as much as I know now, there are no parts aroud here and I'll definitly need to import the part from the USA
going to start with a cab, hope to find one, most of the project is the cab actualy
 
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Look for a clean rust free '61-'63 F 350 ( easiest swap out years, '64 -'66 F350 will work also-slightly higher roof line ) that is complete and doesn't run that someone is wanting to gid rid of out of there yard ( estate sale type and very motivated to remove from property quickly ) for the best bargain to compensate for the shipping. Here an example of what appears to be a good clean rust free cab https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Ford-t...cAAOSw7gZa-Q~n Remember to save warranty plate off old door and re install on new door.Find a good running recently rebuilt engine ( somebody upgrading to a newer engine) on a separate find . 223 or 292 are common and period correct, 262's will be very difficult to locate.
 
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