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There was no F150 SuperCrew until 2001. They were all short bed too. The long bed showed up in 2004.
He listed CCLB, which in 2000 would be the Super Cab Long bed (valid configuration)....super cab was a 1.5 Cab, not 4 full doors. That’s what I think he meant, but Nuctrooper would have to confirm if that is what he intended to say.
There was no F150 SuperCrew until 2001. They were all short bed too. The long bed showed up in 2004.
You’re right - I didn’t look close enough at the tables. Was looking for as near to equivalent, full size builds as I could. Thanks for the backup.
Original point still holds, that the trucks aren’t significantly lighter. Yes, the bodies are lighter, but significantly heavier duty chassis and drivetrain make up that difference.
A 2000 F150 CCLB base weight was 4914lbs
A 2018 F150 CCLB base weight is 4946 lbs
These trucks are not lighter! They are certainly stronger, but not lighter!
My 17 SCREW is over 700 lbs lighter than my 13 SCREW and the 17 doesn't handle in the wind nearly as good as my 13 did. On a trip back from CO pulling a RZR on a 12' trailer I got blown all over the road.
Is the 35.5' the bumper to tongue length or the model length? My sundance xlt 283rb is 34' and some change overall, tows fine as long as you have a good anti-sway system and can drive in the conditions. Weight wise is the 10k the gross weight or the dry weight, that makes a big difference as the gross is the max loaded weight. Mine is 9600 gross, 6950 dry and probably close to 8k loaded. The advertised dry tongue weights tend to be low, 100+lb of extra weight is from adding propane tanks, battery and all that stuff then everything you pack in the camper will add some extra tongue weight, especially in the front pass through. A good hitch and a proper install/setup will go along with in how well the combo preforms.
35 foot, 8000lbs . Its a big ***** .
I have the 5.0. Plenty of power.
just did 600 miles roundtrip.
I need airbags and/or LT tires.
but 62-67mph on the 2 or 4 lane is great.
highways kinda suck right now, suspension not stable enough for passing tractor trailers. SKETCHY
I have the WD hitch cranked
Will airbags help with this guys problem and make his truck more stable?
Help, is not even consideration. That trailer is over the trucks capacity. I towed a similar trailer in a Jayco for years with an F350. The tongue weight alone is likely close to 1,300 pounds. The WDH is "cranked" and the rear of the truck is still sagging. I assure you, the tow is not "great" with plenty of power with a 5.0L. Two capacity is totally irrelevant with most F150's and half tons, as the payload tuns out well before trailer capacity. Again, repeated on this forum for years... the trailer capacity is only good with an EMPTY truck, and ONLY the driver. No cargo, no passengers, and not even a 64oz. soda in the console.
With two posts by the owner on this forum, I'm raising the BS flag.
Help, is not even consideration. That trailer is over the trucks capacity. I towed a similar trailer in a Jayco for years with an F350. The tongue weight alone is likely close to 1,300 pounds. The WDH is "cranked" and the rear of the truck is still sagging. I assure you, the tow is not "great" with plenty of power with a 5.0L. Two capacity is totally irrelevant with most F150's and half tons, as the payload tuns out well before trailer capacity. Again, repeated on this forum for years... the trailer capacity is only good with an EMPTY truck, and ONLY the driver. No cargo, no passengers, and not even a 64oz. soda in the console.
With two posts by the owner on this forum, I'm raising the BS flag.
interesting, I have a 29' I pull w my 3.5 EcoBoost. Trailer only weighs 3400 pounds dry and about 4000 loaded. My truck pulls like the trailer isn't there but we're talking about getting a different trailer same size but weighs 7500 pounds.
What should I be looking out for?
interesting, I have a 29' I pull w my 3.5 EcoBoost. Trailer only weighs 3400 pounds dry and about 4000 loaded. My truck pulls like the trailer isn't there but we're talking about getting a different trailer same size but weighs 7500 pounds.
What should I be looking out for?
Its all about payload. So many are sold a bill of goods by dealers and salesman that a 13,200 trailer capacity is where it's at. Not so. A trailer that size properly loaded has a tongue weight between 1,320 and 1,980 pounds. If the average SuperCrew (and I have no idea what you drive) has a payload of 1,600 pounds, you see how much you have left for your passengers and cargo... MAX 280 pounds. I'm not going to split hairs on ratings and the likely built in safety factors we know nothing about. Just facts.
Ive pulled many trailers from 15k to 800 pounds, and there is no such thing as "it's not even there" on a trailer weighing more than 1,000 pounds. Slam on the brakes in a real emergency stop and tell me why your backside puckers.
Look at real weights. Load your truck with the goodies and people you will tote in the truck. Cross a scale. Deduct your weight from the trucks GVWR and that's what you have left for tongue weight. Simple. It's alarming what you think you have and what actually do have in USEABLE PAYLOAD and TONGUE WEIGHT. Invest in a Sherline tongue scale. Weigh your trailer tongue when fully loaded. This cheap scale may allow you to transfer your load within the trailer to lessen your tongue weight, but DONT allow the tongue weight to be less than 10% of the trailers gross loaded weight. 13% is ideal.
Your truck may pull a 20k trailer, but properly towing is another. Running severely over the posted limits only exposes one to unsafe conditions. Everything feels wonderful and you "don't even know it's back there" until you need to stop or swerve, and that 7,500 pound tail wags your dog. Now someone gets their wings.
35 foot, 8000lbs . Its a big ***** .
I have the 5.0. Plenty of power.
just did 600 miles roundtrip.
I need airbags and/or LT tires.
but 62-67mph on the 2 or 4 lane is great.
highways kinda suck right now, suspension not stable enough for passing tractor trailers. SKETCHY
I have the WD hitch cranked
oh, average mpg was 8.6
Do you have the correct head tilt on that WD system (tilt the head away from the truck or make the bars closer to the ground ), or the correct bars for the tongue weight , I am not weigh police lol just checking , because you should be able to get the truck back to level
something is not set up properly
Last edited by eurojet; 06-27-2018 at 09:46 AM.
Reason: added more info
old trailer not a 3.5 but 2.7 towing 28 foot 6000# loaded , once i got the WD dialed in it towed perfect
new trailer , 3.5eco with a 34ft 5er
Your truck can pull it , just do the research on the best WD system you can afford ,and spend the time setting it up , my advice is dont get the old style anti sway systems (the ones that use the 1" ball ) I used the Reese dual cam and loved it , after to other types /brands and that one did the best job.
06-13-2018, 05:30 PM
