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Old 06-08-2018, 10:44 AM
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Angry $1200 for a ABS module? Shop trying to screw me?

I have used a trusted shop near me for a couple years now and that have always had a good price and worked fast. I am usually a do it yourselfer but since having kids things have changed haha.

The shop just called and told me my 96 ford e150 conversion van needs a new abs module and they are rare and discontinued? He found one in the west coast which will take some time to get for $1200!? When i go on rock auto they are 50 bucks and available.

The van gave me problems after one day i had to slam the brakes in the snow, after that I lost pretty much all brake pressure and had to pump them a lot to stop. I was told to replace the master cylinder and bench bleed which i did. I get brake fluid through the lines no problem without bubbles but have zero pedal pressure. I had to rig a plug for the back lines at the master so i could limp it to the shop which was scary btw, Very little brakes like that.

I have seen the abs light come on a couple times off and on in the past and had a buddy hook up his obdii to it and couldnt get a signal for the abs to run it.

Do you guys think that the ABS module is the problem? It does sound like something with the abs is stopping me from getting my brakes back but at this point i would like to fix it myself.
 
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Old 06-08-2018, 11:51 AM
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OEM Anti-Lock Pump Brake Ford Van E150-E450 F8UZ-2C286-ARM | Alpha Automotive

Here is the part with good pictures that they say went bad. Is it normal for these things to go bad suddenly like that? This van was garage kept and had no brake problems until I had to slam the brakes one day and now this broke? Could it be another part that controls the function of the abs that could have gone bad? Less than 100,000 miles on the van. I see they have smaller abs modules for cheap that just have a plug and are about 50 dollars and hoping maybe that went up?

Also there are no ABS lights or anything.
 
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Old 06-08-2018, 06:56 PM
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that is what I was quoted 5 years ago

I had the same vehicle, '96 e150 conversion van. The ABS light would come on 50% of the time. I had the dealer troubleshoot it, they said it was the ABS computer. They told me it was a 1 year only part and $1000. They recommended not changing it ( optional at inspection in NC on a '96). They may have been telling me a story about the 1 year only, don't know. I never changed it. Good luck.
 
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:09 AM
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I have an E350 Econoline that has had the ABS light on since I bought it. The original owner had replaced the ABS "computer" twice and each time the light came back on within a short time. I have no problem with my brakes working even with the light on all the time....I just don't plan on any ABS system helping me in a sudden stop.
I would say you probably have some other issue besides that ABS....BTW...1200 is not a bad price.....when I inquired it was going to cost me 1400! Dealer told me that the brakes should work fine without ABS I would just have to perhaps push a bit harder considering the size of the van. I just drive slower and easier.
 
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Old 06-09-2018, 02:13 AM
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Try 80.00 new. Ebay number 1211113163
 
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:22 AM
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The ABS light on my 93 has been off/on for many years.
 
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My 94 E150 Conversion van has had the light off & on for the last 3 years. I've meant to pull the sensors and examine them for any magnetic trash that can accumulate on the tip causing errors. As you may know the ABS on our generation of van only modulates the back brakes is there is a speed discrepancy in the front & rear axles. If you lock a front tire in the snow you're gonna smack the curb or worse. If the system is non-functioning you are still driving a van with power brakes and stopping will be normal assuming you have traction on all four corners. I've attached the diagnostic & service section for the ABS. I think I would need $1200 just to run through all the tests and verifications!
ABS manual
 
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Old 06-10-2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog View Post
Try 80.00 new. Ebay number 1211113163
I just searched that number on eBay. Zero results.


Anyway, I'd be very leary of an eBay item that's less than 10% of what the same thing costs from reputable sources.

I was just looking for one for my 96 E350 a couple of weeks ago, and I was seeing them in the $800 and up neighborhood. My ABS light has randomly come on since I bought it with 16,000 miles on it. I'm the second owner.
 
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Originally Posted by wirelessengineer View Post
I just searched that number on eBay. Zero results.


Anyway, I'd be very leary of an eBay item that's less than 10% of what the same thing costs from reputable sources.

I was just looking for one for my 96 E350 a couple of weeks ago, and I was seeing them in the $800 and up neighborhood. My ABS light has randomly come on since I bought it with 16,000 miles on it. I'm the second owner.
Sounds like your occasional ABS light could be from the cause I mentioned (I've meant to pull the sensors and examine them for any magnetic trash that can accumulate on the tip causing errors.)
 
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:53 AM
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Thank you all for the help and that abs manual i really appreciate it! My ABS light came off and on for a year and never had any braking problems at all.

After that hard stop in the snow is all it took for me to lose 80 percent of my brakes and have to pump like crazy to stop and even then it does not want to come to a complete stop, They found no leaks and neither did I.
Is there anything i can do to test and make sure that the abs module is the definitely the issue? I have no abs light on at all now no matter what I do and when i pull the rabs fuse the abs light does come on and when i put that back in it goes off.

Could i bypass the module just by running a brake line around it or taking a spring out or anything like that? I rather just be able to drive it and I don't drive fast anyways.
 
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Originally Posted by wirelessengineer View Post
I just searched that number on eBay. Zero results.


Anyway, I'd be very leary of an eBay item that's less than 10% of what the same thing costs from reputable sources.

I was just looking for one for my 96 E350 a couple of weeks ago, and I was seeing them in the $800 and up neighborhood. My ABS light has randomly come on since I bought it with 16,000 miles on it. I'm the second owner.
There is a surplus of these modules out there. Stay with NOS and you will be fine. To pay 800 is nuts, Ford sold off all this inventory over 15 years ago for pennies on the dollar.
 
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:32 AM
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Has anyone here done a rabs bypass with some brake line? I have read some people doing it and not noticing much of a difference. I naturally pump the brakes anyways during a hard stop from lots of video game sim racing haha.
 
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