was probly mostly fleet sales, which are meaningless numbers since qaulity of the vehicle is low on the priority list

chances are near zero youll see dana axles in the ram. just no good reason to switch

im sure plenty of closet ford fans will jump ship, assume new name on a ram site, pretend like they never owned a ford. the fan bois will stay around here and go down with the ship

 

Ford will have some surprises in 2020. I looked at Dodge hard before buying my 2018 F250. Dodge didn't have the technology like Ford. I could have save about 4 grand with the Dodge, but decided to go with the Ford. Also with the Dodge, In order to get the 900 lbs of torque and the better transmission you had to get the dually. I test drove the Dodge and Ford back to back and the Ford clearly had more power than the Dodge. Take off is phenomenal.

 

""was probably" means "I'm guessing but have no clue or facts to back it up".

fleet sales were down 4.6% and retail was up 3.5% with an overall 1% gain across all vehicles.

 

I missed you around here *****!

 

I'd have to think that Ford is already making moves towards the 1000 ft lb race as they made some mechanical improvements to the 2018 model, heads and I believe connecting rods. Dodge, or Fiat or Ram, whatever the hell they call themselves nowadays is just playing catch up until they go bankrupt or get bought out again. The only good thing about a Heavy Duty Ram is the Cummins and maybe I could give a nod to the air ride, a nice touch.

 

 

Not any more...Aisin's are even available in Toyota's!

 

since you were the guy that posted 85k and seem to have your "facts" in order, how many units were from fleet sales ?

 

We're all are winners when the competition tries a one up. Wether it's an F150 or Super Duty, I can't imagine Ford ever giving up first place.

 

I spoke to an engineer that was working on the dyno rooms at ford when they were testing the next gen powerstroke. They were planning to be the first to 1000 lbs ft, and he said the motor was capable of over 1200 lbs ft. They were apparently experimenting with short, hockey puck like steel pistons. He wouldn't tell me what the displacement was though. That 7.3 is going to be a gasser, though it is possible they could make the next powerstroke that displacement as well.

 

Yes Ford has a 7.x gasser coming but they are playing with a new 7.3 powerstroke as well. My guy out there drove it a few weeks ago. This is not something that is going to be in production anytime soon or if at all, just things Ford toys with to see what works and what doesnt. Bringing back the 7.3 powerstroke would be cool though..

 

Typically I dont post "probably stuff" when I dont know anything about it. To quote someone and have no clue about it.. saying probably this or that.. well sorry, drives me nuts. No point in even saying it then.

Total fleet sales were 32.5%. Not sure why you even need that number since Ford has been dropping fleet for a while. Plus as I said earlier, sales are up and fleet is down. That shows right there retail is up. Average transaction prices were up $3,400 per unit as well (fleet would not help this).

 

 

i would of just posted a link to where you got your info and let it do the talking. what better way to shut someone up

so no ones confused, all f150 and raptor trucks were included in the 85k but at what percent i dont know

 

Either you miss wrote or you do not understand torque and RPM and horsepower relationship. HP is torque x speed. The cummins is a lower revving motor than the powerstroke, always has been, always will be; this does not in any way mean it is less powerful. It just does the same work at a lower RPM, and all things being equal this is better.

1,000 ft lb of torque is nothing new, we were doing it 20 years ago with the 7.3 and 5.9 12 valve. The difference is full factory warranty at the power level, a difference that cannot be overstated for the average Joe customer.

I had a dodge back in the day and love the 12 valve 5.9, that is how a diesel should sound, period. On the other hand, the joke was then, the motor will last just the truck around it will not. It would seem a couple of decades in the future this has not changed. I'm still impressed by the body and interior fit and finish after 18 years of my Ford. I can literally buy any truck I want, and I still choose Ford.



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