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Old 06-01-2018, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fish pond

The guy I got my T98 from was nice enough to include the PTO gearbox, I thought I was all set with my spur gear
PTO, he splained wont work,I need helical PTO, very thankful ,I was.

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Great that you got a PTO with your T98! They are hard to come by, I never found one for my F4. I ended up modifying a spur gear PTO to use on my T98.
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Originally Posted by 49fordv8f4
Great that you got a PTO with your T98! They are hard to come by, I never found one for my F4. I ended up modifying a spur gear PTO to use on my T98.
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You never asked, or timing was Just off?
I think i saved the one off the t98 that I sent to Tom aka (pineconeford) as he didn't need one for his truck.
Greg however has a hydraulic dump box on your truck if I remember correctly? Glad you got the trans finally, that was quite slow shipping. Keep us posted on your progress as well.

Mark, did you have to remove the spur gear and replace with one to mesh with the t98 gears? Sounds like alot of work.

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I have the PTO that came on mine if somebody needs one.
 
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So not modding the cross member and shorting the drive shaft, does this cause issues with drive line angle?
Mid ship bearing?
U joints?

I finally took my T98 off the pallet and have started with putty knife cleaning away 68 years of "stuff" and measuring here and there,mine came out of a 50 F6,its going into a 51 M3(F3).

As above, the T98 is taller, longer ,and the u joint is huge from the F6. the top cover (shifter ) is longer as well.
I think I mite cut cross member about 6-8" in from frame rails and weld 1/4" or so plates to all four pcs and bolt them all back together as a ajustable C.M.? just thinkin...
I would really like to change rear axle gear ratio to something like 3:00 to 1, with the 6: to 1 of 1st gear , truck would still have plenty of grunt in 1st.
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I have a T98 behind a Lincoln 317 in my '56. Rear end is a Ford 9" with 2.75 gears and a 27" tire. Plenty of grunt in first gear and not terrible to take off in second. I'm still hoping to find a T19 (synchronized in all gears) with 4:1 first gear for a good price.
 
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Originally Posted by jmadsen
You never asked, or timing was Just off?
I think i saved the one off the t98 that I sent to Tom aka (pineconeford) as he didn't need one for his truck.
Greg however has a hydraulic dump box on your truck if I remember correctly? Glad you got the trans finally, that was quite slow shipping. Keep us posted on your progress as well.

Mark, did you have to remove the spur gear and replace with one to mesh with the t98 gears? Sounds like alot of work.

Cheers
Josh
Josh, Sorry I missed this post. I think I modified my PTO right before I joined FTE. I ended up using the center gear from a '60 T98 cluster gear to make a gear for my T9 PTO. I used the center hub from the T9 PTO spur gear and fitted the helical gear from the T98 cluster to it.
Thanks, Mark
 
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Originally Posted by fish pond
So not modding the cross member and shorting the drive shaft, does this cause issues with drive line angle?
Mid ship bearing?
U joints?

I finally took my T98 off the pallet and have started with putty knife cleaning away 68 years of "stuff" and measuring here and there,mine came out of a 50 F6,its going into a 51 M3(F3).

As above, the T98 is taller, longer ,and the u joint is huge from the F6.
Greg
The 4 bolt companion flange bolted to the tailshaft/parking brake drum on your T98 from the F6 has the same bolt pattern as the one in an F2-F3 companion flange, the u-joint is just larger. The T98 that I have in my F4 now, I installed in a '51 F2 in the late 70s. I was replacing a heavy duty 3 speed. The only mods to the truck that I had to do was the drive shaft. Other than that it was a direct bolt in replacement. You will have to shorten the driveshaft, unless you can move the engine forward about 2"
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The taller t98 raised the drive line up a bit, but not that much. The clutch linkage still all connected and works.

Once I took the parking brake stuff off of the t98, I was able to find a u joint flange to fit.

The top cover does not fit without modifying the crossmember to lower the trans down a bit, but I just bent the metal... I do not have a perfect truck, so this worked just fine for my purposes.
 
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