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Old 05-21-2018, 07:53 PM
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California Air Resource Board Requiring Me To Replace My Engine!!

Has anyone come up with a reasonable solution to the CARB requirement?
Diesel trucks and buses with a GVWR that is 14,001+lbs must reduce exhaust emissions by meeting particulate matter (PM) filter requirements and upgrading to 2010 model year (MY) or newer engines:

I have a 2003 F550, 7.3 diesel with a GVWR of 17,500 and received notice that I must replace the engine with a 2010 model year (MY) or newer engine.
I had this truck built with a huge service bed and did several upgrades to extend the life of the vehicle. It currently has 275 k and truck in in great shape, not ready to retire it.
Per the new law I am required to do this by Jan 1st, 2020

If I decide to sell it, Can I sell the truck in another state?

If I decide to keep the truck, What engine should I use?
I assume I should do a brand new engine and use the current model if possible as I don't want to do it again.

There is a current exemption if I choose to use the truck less than 5k a year; however, I just read that that exemption will be reduced to 1k in 2020 so it will not help me.

Does anyone know of other solutions or ideas?
Thank in advance,
Scott
 
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:15 PM
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Woe,woe,woe WTF! are the *******es from Kamifornia at it again? I feel sorry for you man that sucks, i had no clue ut was that bad.
 
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:30 PM
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That really bites, sorry to hear about it. You can sell that truck and it can be used in 49 other states, or is it 56? And probably a few other countries.
 
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if I was in Commiefornia id be jumping ship or at least registering the truck in another state, not sure of how that would go but I would do that if it were me
 
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This is an old regulation that was delayed if I am remembering it correctly.

IMO sell it out of state. Rust free trucks go for a premium in the rust belt.

Year and a half to go, you should be able to find a buyer.

IMO I wouldn't fool with a DPF or a repower, too many things to "go wrong".

Not that this makes it any easier.
 
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Seriously? I can’t believe it hasn’t been challenged. I’d jump ship...
 
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:04 AM
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Apparently... this is real:

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onrdiesel/onrdiesel.htm

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onrdie...s/FSRegSum.pdf



...great... Now the links don't work here. Right-click and select "open in new tab" if the links above are duds.
 

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Old 05-22-2018, 06:18 AM
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You know, I usually hold my thoughts on the laws that CA brings to the table to myself and my immediate family, but....

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE F-IN KIDDING ME...

I am serious when I say that the only part of CA I interested in visiting is the northern part.

Sorry for your troubles, don't know what else to say.
 
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:11 AM
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Imagine of you were a trucking company and had several older trucks in service. I never gave it much thought but I have been hearing about it for quite some time (a few years IIRC).
 
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This would wipe out my ability to tow my boat in the manner I am accustomed to. My career works in other states, I just hope I'd never have to leave Washington because it got all **** like California is. It's bad enough that Seattle is trying to chase out all the businesses with the head tax. This is a result of...
  • the vast majority of citizens not owning or being familiar with diesels
  • the stigma that celebrities driving Hummers left behind
  • the stigma that coal rollers left behind
  • impatience with waiting for these things to disappear through natural attrition
  • the perceived success (environmentally speaking) of the "Cash for Clunkers" program, but California wants the diesel owners to perform the same operation on their dime and time.
I'd move... because what's next? It won't end here.
 
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So,how can they require you to replace the engine with an engine that no longer exists and in a truck that would have to retrofitted to accept a 2010 or newer (6.4 or 6.7) motor? This doesn't make any sense. The truck would be salvage. Am I missing something?
 
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I think I read this is intended to be for semi trucks and stop people from buying gliders and repowering them. Looks like the way it is written it is trickling down....

According to the links Tugly posted I have to apply for a once a year 3 day pass if I want to visit. Stupid **** like this is why I crossed CA off my July trip.
 
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What are the requirements for lighter trucks and buses?
Lighter trucks and buses with a GVWR of 14,001 to 26,000
lbs. have compliance requirements starting January 1, 2015.
The Engine Model Year Schedule for Lighter vehicles shown
in the table to the right lists the compliance dates by engine
model year for existing lighter trucks. Starting January 1,
2015, lighter vehicles with engines that are 20 years or older
must be replaced with newer trucks (or engines). Starting
January 1, 2020, all remaining vehicles need to be replaced
so that they all have 2010 model year engines or equivalent
emissions by January 1, 2023. No reporting is required with
this schedule.

 
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Originally Posted by Tugly
This would wipe out my ability to tow my boat in the manner I am accustomed to.
It seems this only applies to 14001 and up GVWR trucks. So, unlike the OP, most of us regular guys would be exempt. Your trailer isn't included in your GVWR, it goes into your GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating), which isn't mentioned in the links provided. At least that's how GVWR and GCRW are defined here in PA.
 
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintITC
It seems this only applies to 14001 and up GVWR trucks. So, unlike the OP, most of us regular guys would be exempt. Your trailer isn't included in your GVWR, it goes into your GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating), which isn't mentioned in the links provided. At least that's how GVWR and GCRW are defined here in PA.
What is the gvwr for class A rv's typically? I wonder if they are exempt.
 


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